SP002 - Mon 26 Mar 2012 / Lun 26 mar 2012



Monday 26 March 2012 Lundi 26 mars 2012


The committee met at 1401 in committee room 1.


The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): We’ll call the meeting to order. We’re here to consider the report of the subcommittee of the Standing Committee on Social Policy, to consider its adoption, amendment or rejection. Would someone like to read the report of the subcommittee? Mr. Hardeman.

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: Your subcommittee on committee business met on Monday, March 19, 2012, to consider the method of proceeding on Bill 20, An Act to amend the Building Code Act, 1992 to require carbon monoxide detectors in certain residential buildings, and recommends the following:

(1) That the committee meet for the purpose of holding public hearings in Toronto on Monday, April 2, 2012.

(2) That the clerk of the committee post information regarding the hearings on the Ontario parliamentary channel and the Legislative Assembly website.

(3) That interested people who wish to be considered to make oral presentations on Bill 20 should contact the clerk of the committee by Monday, March 26, 2012, at 12 noon.

(4) That the clerk of the committee provide a list of all interested presenters to the subcommittee following the deadline for requests.

(5) That the deadline for written submissions be Monday, April 2, 2012, at 5 p.m.

(6) That the research officer provide the committee a background paper on similar existing legislation across the country.

(7) That the clerk of the committee, in consultation with the Chair, be authorized prior to the adoption of the report of the subcommittee to commence making any preliminary arrangements to facilitate the committee’s proceedings.

That’s the end of the committee report.

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Thank you very much. It seems to me that point number 7 requires some—

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: No.

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Are there any comments or questions concerning the report?

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: I believe that one thing that might have been in the report and wasn’t was the length of presentations for the deputants at the hearings that we’re holding.

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Ah, yes.

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: I have a motion here. I move that the report of the subcommittee be amended by adding the following:

“(4.1) That the length of presentations for witnesses be 20 minutes.”

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Mr. Hardeman has moved (4.1): that the length of presentations be 20 minutes. Is there any comment? Mr. Balkissoon.

Mr. Bas Balkissoon: Chair, I just want to clarify. Does that include the presentation and questions of the presenter?

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: Yes.

Mr. Bas Balkissoon: Okay. I just wanted to clarify that and make sure it’s correct.

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Comments? Yes, Michael.

Mr. Michael Prue: There are two Michaels here, but it’s me, Michael Prue.

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Mr. Prue.

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: The veteran and the rookie.

Mr. Michael Prue: The veteran and the rookie. Okay.

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): We’re a friendly committee.

Mr. Michael Prue: It’s not been stated how many people are coming. Twenty minutes is generally a long time. I take it that there are limited numbers of presenters so that that can be accommodated in the time set aside?

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Mr. Hardeman has some knowledge on that subject.

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: I believe we have presently six people, and the deadline was this morning. So we will be having six deputations.

Mr. Michael Prue: So that could be accommodated in the two-hour time frame?

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: Yes.

Mr. Michael Prue: Thank you.

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Any other comments? Are we all in favour of the motion?

Mr. Ernie Hardeman: Amendment.

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Amendment to the motion. Thank you.

Mr. Michael Prue: Agreed.

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Carried.

Is everyone in favour of the subcommittee report, as amended? It’s agreed. Carried.

What a wonderful group you are to work with.

Mr. Bas Balkissoon: Are we adjourned?

The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): I would entertain such a motion.


The Vice-Chair (Mr. Ted Chudleigh): Thank you, Bas. The committee stands adjourned until the call of the clerk, the Chair or whoever.

The committee adjourned at 1406.


Monday 26 March 2012

Subcommittee report SP-3


Chair / Président

Mr. Ernie Hardeman (Oxford PC)

Vice-Chair / Vice-Président

Mr. Ted Chudleigh (Halton PC)

Mr. Ted Chudleigh (Halton PC)

Ms. Dipika Damerla (Mississauga East–Cooksville / Mississauga-Est–Cooksville L)

Ms. Cheri DiNovo (Parkdale–High Park ND)

Mr. Kevin Daniel Flynn (Oakville L)

Mr. Ernie Hardeman (Oxford PC)

Ms. Tracy MacCharles (Pickering–Scarborough East / Pickering–Scarborough-Est L)

Mrs. Amrit Mangat (Mississauga–Brampton South / Mississauga–Brampton-Sud L)

Mr. Michael Mantha (Algoma–Manitoulin ND)

Ms. Jane McKenna (Burlington PC)

Substitutions / Membres remplaçants

Mr. Bas Balkissoon (Scarborough–Rouge River L)

Mr. Michael Prue (Beaches–East York ND)

Clerk / Greffier

Mr. Katch Koch

Staff / Personnel

Ms. Carrie Hull, research officer,
Legislative Research Service