36th Parliament, 1st Session

No. 177 No 177

Votes and

Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly

of Ontario

Assemblée législative

de l'Ontario

1st Session,

36th Parliament

1re session,

36e législature

Monday

April 21, 1997

Lundi

21 avril 1997

PRAYERS

1:30 P.M.

PRIÈRES

13 H 30

The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-

I beg to inform the House that a vacancy has occurred in the membership of the House by reason of the resignation of Elinor Caplan, member for the Electoral District of Oriole effective March 10, 1997. Accordingly, my warrant has been issued to the Chief Election Officer for the issue of a writ for a by-election.

MOTIONS

MOTIONS

Mr Johnson (Don Mills) moved that the House do now proceed to "Orders of the Day", which motion was carried on the following division:-

M. Johnson (Don Mills) propose que la présente Assemblée passe à «l'Ordre du jour» maintenant et cette motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

Ayes - 70 Nays - 38

Pour - 70 Contre - 38

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

A debate arose on the motion for Third Reading of Bill 103, An Act to replace the seven existing municipal governments of Metropolitan Toronto by incorporating a new municipality to be known as the City of Toronto.

Il s'élève un débat sur la motion portant troisième lecture du projet de loi 103, Loi visant à remplacer les sept administrations municipales existantes de la communauté urbaine de Toronto en constituant une nouvelle municipalité appelée la cité de Toronto.

After some time, Mr McGuinty moved,

Après quelque temps, M. McGuinty propose,

That Bill 103, An Act to replace the seven existing municipal governments of Metropolitan Toronto by incorporating a new municipality to be known as the City of Toronto, be NOT now read a third time but be returned to the Standing Committee on General Government to determine the following matters:

The amount of the shift in tax burden from provincial taxes to municipal residential, commercial and industrial property which is occurring as a result of the downloading and offloading of provincial costs onto the municipal tax base;

The impact of the offloading of provincial costs on the taxes, services and the voice of communities across Metro. The government should present evidence to demonstrate how the legislation will reduce taxes in Metro and to show how services will be protected;

The implications of ignoring the Golden and Crombie Task force recommendations to replace the 5 existing regional governments with a GTA-wide council or board made up of representatives from the municipalities within the GTA;

The implications of studies showing that, once a city gets over 1 million people, economies of scale in municipal operations start to disappear. The government's own studies showing what savings are expected should also be presented at this time.

The debate continued and, after some time,

Le débat se poursuit et après quelque temps,

Pursuant to the Order of the House of January 29, 1997, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings and put the Question:-

Conformément à l'ordre adopté par l'Assemblée le 29 janvier 1997, le Président interrompt les délibérations et met la question aux voix:-

"Shall the Bill be NOW read a third time" which motion was carried on the following division:-

«Passe-t-on à la troisième lecture de ce projet de loi MAINTENANT» et ladite motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 72

Arnott Harris Palladini

Baird Hastings Parker

Barrett Hodgson Pettit

Bassett Hudak Rollins

Beaubien Jackson Ross

Boushy Johns Runciman

Carroll Johnson Sampson

Chudleigh (Brantford) Shea

Clement Johnson Sheehan

Cunningham (Don Mills) Smith

DeFaria Johnson Snobelen

Doyle (Perth) Spina

Ecker Jordan Stewart

Elliott Kells Tascona

Eves Klees Tilson

Fisher Leach Tsubouchi

Flaherty Leadston Turnbull

Ford Marland Villeneuve

Fox Martiniuk Wettlaufer

Froese Maves Wilson

Galt McLean Witmer

Gilchrist Munro Wood

Grimmett Mushinski (London South)

Guzzo Newman Young

Hardeman O'Toole

Harnick Ouellette

NAYS / CONTRE - 42

Agostino Gerretsen McLeod

Bartolucci Grandmaître Miclash

Boyd Gravelle Morin

NAYS / CONTRE - Continued

Bradley Hampton North

Brown Hoy Patten

(Algoma-Manitoulin) Kennedy Phillips

Christopherson Kormos Pouliot

Churley Kwinter Pupatello

Cleary Lalonde Ramsay

Colle Lankin Sergio

Conway Laughren Silipo

Cordiano Marchese Wildman

Crozier Martel Wood

Curling Martin (Cochrane North)

Duncan McGuinty

And the Bill was accordingly read the third time and was passed.

En conséquence, ce projet de loi est lu une troisième fois et adopté.

The House then adjourned

at 6:10 p.m.

À 18 h 10, la chambre a ensuite

ajourné ses travaux.

le président

Christopher M. Stockwell

Speaker

Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 39(c):-

Documents Parlementaires Déposés Conformément à l'article 39(c) du Règlement:-

Metropolitan Toronto Convention Centre Corporation / Corporation du Palais des Congrès du Toronto Metropolitain, Annual Report for year ended March 31, 1996 (No. 388) (Tabled April 16, 1997).

Niagara Parks Commission / Commission des parcs du Niagara, Annual Report for the year ended October 31, 1994 (No. 384) (Tabled April 16, 1997).

Niagara Parks Commission / Commission des parcs du Niagara, Annual Report for the year ended October 31, 1995 (No. 385) (Tabled April 16, 1997).

Ontario Lottery Corporation / Société des loteries de l'Ontario, Annual Report for the year ending March 31, 1996 (No. 389) (Tabled April 16, 1997).

Ontario Northland Transportation Commission / Commission de Transport Ontario Northland, Annual Report for the year ending December 31, 1995 (No. 383) (Tabled April 15, 1997).

Ontario Place / la place Ontario, Annual Report for the year ended March 31, 1993 (No. 387) (Tabled April 16, 1997).

Ontario Place / la place Ontario, Annual Report for the year ended March 31, 1994 (No. 386) (Tabled April 16, 1997).

Ontario Realty Corporation / Société immobilière de l'Ontario, Annual Report April 1, 1995 to March 31, 1996 (No. 382) (Tabled April 15, 1997).

Part-time appointments re intended Order-in-Council dated April 16, 1997 (No. 390) (Tabled April 18, 1997).

Responses to Petitions:-

Réponses aux Pétitions:-

Pétition ayant rapport à la Route 17 (Sessional Paper No. P-220):

(Tabled April 1, 1997) Mr J.-M. Lalonde.

Answers to Questions Tabled April 15, 1997 (see Sessional Paper No. 5):-

Final Answers to Question Numbers: 1153 to 1156.

Interim Answers to Question Numbers: 1152, 1157 to 1165.

Responses to Petitions Tabled April 15, 1997:-

Petition relating to the Resignation of Mike Harris (Sessional Paper No. P-43):

(Tabled April 1, 1997) Mr R. Marchese.

Petition relating to Amalgamating the six municipalities within Toronto (Sessional Paper No. P-179):

(Tabled April 1, 1997) Mr T. Ruprecht.

Petition relating to Restructuring the provincial-municipal relationship (Sessional Paper No. P-228):

(Tabled April 1, 1997) Mrs L. McLeod.

(Tabled April 1, 1997) Mr F. Miclash.

(Tabled April 1, 1997) Mr B. Wildman.

(Tabled April 1, 1997) Mr B. Wood (London South).

Responses to Petitions Tabled April 16, 1997:-

Petition relating to the Final phase of renovations at Macassa Lodge (Sessional Paper No. P-233):

(Tabled April 1, 1997) Ms S. Martel.

Petition relating to Outsourcing or privatization of professional support staff services of the educational system under Bill 104 (Sessional Paper No. P-240):

(Tabled April 1, 1997) Mrs M. Boyd.