44e législature, 1re session

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44th Parliament, 1st session 

 

44e Législature, 1re session 

 

Votes and Proceedings



 

Procès-verbaux



 

No. 84




 

Nº 84




 

Thursday
October 29, 2026



 

Jeudi
29 octobre 2026



 

Hon. Donna Skelly
Speaker

L'hon. Donna Skelly
la présidente

THURSDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2026
EIGHTY-FOURTH DAY

JEUDI 29 OCTOBRE 2026
QUATRE-VINGT-QUATRIÈME JOUR

9:00 A.M.

Prayers

9 H

Prières

Orders of the Day

Ordres du jour

Second Reading of Bill 140, An Act to enact two Acts and to amend various Acts.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 140, Loi édictant deux lois et modifiant diverses lois.

Debate resumed and after some time, the debate adjourned at 10:14 a.m.

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps, à 10 h 14, le débat était ajourné.

10:15 A.M.

10 H 15

With unanimous consent,

Avec le consentement unanime,

Ordered, That notwithstanding Standing Order 40(e), 2 minutes be allotted to the independent Members as a group to respond to the Ministerial Statement by the Minister of Finance on the Fall Economic Statement.

The Speaker addressed the House:

La Présidente s’adresse à l’Assemblée :

Yesterday, the Leader of the Official Opposition (Marit Stiles) and the Leader of the Third Party (John Fraser) each filed notices of Opposition Day motions for consideration next week. I have selected the notice standing in the name of the Leader of the Official Opposition to be debated. The Third Party's notice will be removed from the Orders and Notices Paper.

The Speaker delivered the following ruling:

La Présidente a rendu la décision suivante :

On Tuesday, October 27, 2026, the Member for Kingston and the Islands (Ted Hsu) rose on a question of privilege to express concerns about remarks made by the Premier on August 24, 2026, while the House stood adjourned. According to the Member, the Premier’s remarks to the media diminished the authority and dignity of the House and, therefore, constituted contempt of the Legislature.

I have had the opportunity to review the Premier's remarks, Tuesday’s Hansard, the written submissions from the Member for Kingston and the Islands and the House Leaders for the Government and the Official Opposition, as well as the relevant precedents, practices, and authorities, and I am now prepared to rule on this matter.

I would like to first note that in raising the question of privilege, the Member for Kingston and the Islands correctly identified the underlying issue as relating to contempt rather than parliamentary privilege. Privilege exists as a defined set of rights and immunities, but there are many potential offenses that would obstruct or undermine the functions of the legislature that cannot be categorized as breaches of privilege. Any action or conduct (including words) against the authority or dignity of the legislature is considered “contempt.”

In the Canadian House of Commons, on October 10, 1989, Speaker Fraser explained the difference between privilege and contempt in the following terms (at page 4459 of the Hansard for that day):

"[A]ll breaches of privileges are contempts of the House, but not all contempts are necessarily breaches of privilege. A contempt may be an act or an omission; it does not have to actually obstruct or impede the House or a member, it merely has to have the tendency to produce such results. Matters ranging from minor breaches of decorum to grave attacks against the authority of Parliament may be considered as contempts."

Let me now turn to the substance of this matter.

During a press conference, the Premier was asked whether he would consider the Official Opposition’s requests for a recall of the House in order to deal with matters relating to the imposition of tariffs. The Premier’s response to these questions included, among other statements, use of the term “gutter politics” and a comment that “If they have suggestions, call me up. Everyone else calls me up.”

In his remarks in the House and his written submission, the Member for Kingston and the Islands shared his interpretation of these comments. He contends that the Premier equated the request for the House to be recalled so that Members may perform their parliamentary functions to “gutter politics”. Additionally, the Member advances that the Premier’s suggestion to “call him up” was offered as an acceptable alternative to parliamentary proceedings, and a reduction of the role of the Legislative Assembly to a means of communicating suggestions to the executive. The Member for Kingston and the Islands submits that these statements amount to contempt because they “diminish the authority and dignity of this House and its proceedings.”

If the Premier did in fact degrade the proceedings of the House and undermine its functions, it would raise grave concerns. It is well established that an attack on the dignity or authority of the institution of parliament can constitute a contempt. As the Member highlighted in his submission, my predecessors in the Speaker’s chair have found prima facie cases of contempt on those grounds.

The Government House Leader, in his submission, offers another interpretation. In his view, the Premier’s statement was not that phone calls should replace parliamentary proceedings, but rather provide an additional opportunity to make suggestions, akin to the meetings that all Members regularly conduct with constituents and stakeholders. He claimed that the phrase “gutter politics” was used in reference to the actions of political opponents, not the legislature itself. The Government House Leader also noted that in his comments the Premier referenced the return of the House and requested support for the government’s proposals upon that return.

I have reviewed the video of the Premier’s press conference, and I do not know with any degree of certainty what his intention was in making those statements.

The Speaker’s role in ruling on questions of privilege and contempt is to determine whether prima facie, a case of privilege or contempt exists. The second edition of Maingot’s Parliamentary Privilege in Canada provides the following explanation (at page 221):

“A prima facie case of privilege in the parliamentary sense is one where the evidence on its face outlined by the Member is sufficiently strong for the House to be asked to debate the matter…”

In the present case, although I do not know precisely what the Premier intended, my own genuine interpretation of his comments is that they do not directly challenge the dignity or authority of the legislature. All Members are honourable, and in the absence of sufficiently strong evidence to the contrary, I am reluctant to attribute negative motives to any Member. My ruling is that the comments made by the Premier on August 24 do not amount to a prima facie case of contempt.

I want to thank the Member for Kingston and the Islands for bringing this matter to the attention of the House.

Deferred Votes

Votes différés

Second Reading of Bill 117, An Act to enact the Access (Assistance for Care, Commuting and Essential Specialized Services) Act, 2026.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 117, Loi édictant la Loi «Access» de 2026 (aide au titre des soins, des déplacements et des services spécialisés essentiels).

Lost on the following division:

Rejetée par le vote suivant :

Ayes/pour (40)
Armstrong
Armstrong
Blais
Blais
Bourgouin
Bourgouin
Brady
Brady
Burch
Burch
Cerjanec
Cerjanec
Clancy
Clancy
Collard
Collard
Fife
Fife
Fraser
Fraser
French
French
Gates
Gates
Gélinas
Gélinas
Gilmour
Gilmour
Glover
Glover
Gretzky
Gretzky
Hazell
Hazell
Hsu
Hsu
Kernaghan
Kernaghan
Lennox
Lennox
Mamakwa
Mamakwa
McCrimmon
McCrimmon
McKenney
McKenney
McMahon
McMahon
Pasma
Pasma
Sattler
Sattler
Schreiner
Schreiner
Shaban
Shaban
Shamji
Shamji
Shaw
Shaw
Smyth
Smyth
Stevens
Stevens
Stiles
Stiles
Tabuns
Tabuns
Tsao
Tsao
Vanthof
Vanthof
Vaugeois
Vaugeois
Watt
Watt
West
West
Wong-Tam
Wong-Tam
Nays/contre (71)
Allsopp
Allsopp
Anand
Anand
Babikian
Babikian
Bailey
Bailey
Beattie
Beattie
Bresee
Bresee
Calandra
Calandra
Cho (Scarborough North)
Cho (Scarborough-Nord)
Cho (Willowdale)
Cho (Willowdale)
Ciriello
Ciriello
Clark
Clark
Coe
Coe
Cooper
Cooper
Crawford
Crawford
Darouze
Darouze
Denault
Denault
Dixon
Dixon
Dowie
Dowie
Downey
Downey
Dunlop
Dunlop
Fedeli
Fedeli
Firin
Firin
Flack
Flack
Ford
Ford
Gallagher Murphy
Gallagher Murphy
Grewal
Grewal
Gualtieri
Gualtieri
Hamid
Hamid
Hardeman
Hardeman
Harris
Harris
Holland
Holland
Jones (Chatham-Kent—Leamington)
Jones (Chatham-Kent—Leamington)
Jones (Dufferin—Caledon)
Jones (Dufferin—Caledon)
Jordan
Jordan
Kanapathi
Kanapathi
Kerzner
Kerzner
Khanjin
Khanjin
Lahey
Lahey
Leardi
Leardi
Lecce
Lecce
McCarthy
McCarthy
McGregor
McGregor
Oosterhoff
Oosterhoff
Pang
Pang
Parsa
Parsa
Piccini
Piccini
Pierre
Pierre
Pinsonneault
Pinsonneault
Pirie
Pirie
Quinn
Quinn
Racinsky
Racinsky
Rae
Rae
Riddell
Riddell
Rosenberg
Rosenberg
Sabawy
Sabawy
Sandhu
Sandhu
Sarkaria
Sarkaria
Sarrazin
Sarrazin
Saunderson
Saunderson
Scott (Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock)
Scott (Haliburton—Kawartha Lakes—Brock)
Smith (Parry Sound—Muskoka)
Smith (Parry Sound—Muskoka)
Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)
Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)
Smith (Scarborough Centre)
Smith (Scarborough-Centre)
Smith (Thornhill)
Smith (Thornhill)
Surma
Surma
Tangri
Tangri
Thanigasalam
Thanigasalam
Thompson
Thompson
Triantafilopoulos
Triantafilopoulos
Vickers
Vickers
Williams
Williams

The House recessed at 11:54 a.m.

À 11 h 54, l’Assemblée a suspendu la séance.


1:00 P.M.

13 H

Reports by Committees

Rapports de comités

The Speaker informed the House,

La Présidente a informé l’Assemblée,

That the Clerk received the Report on Intended Appointments dated October 29, 2026 of the Standing Committee on Government Agencies. Pursuant to Standing Order 110(f)(9), the Report is deemed to be adopted by the House (Sessional Paper No. 402).

Que le greffier a reçu le Rapport sur les nominations prévues daté le 29 octobre 2026 du Comité permanent des organismes gouvernementaux. Conformément à l’article 110 f) 9) du Règlement, le rapport est réputé adopté par l’Assemblée (Document parlementaire no 402).

Introduction of Government Bills

Dépôt de projets de loi émanant du gouvernement

The following Bill was introduced and read the first time:

Le projet de loi suivant est présenté et lu une première fois :

Bill 143, An Act to implement Budget measures and to enact and amend various statutes. Hon. Peter Bethlenfalvy (Minister of Finance).

Projet de loi 143, Loi visant à mettre en œuvre les mesures budgétaires et à édicter et à modifier diverses lois. L'hon. Peter Bethlenfalvy (Ministre des Finances).

Introduction of Bills

Dépôt de projets de loi

The following Bill was introduced and read the first time:

Le projet de loi suivant est présenté et lu une première fois :

Bill 144, An Act to establish a Plug-in Solar Panels Advisory Committee. Peter Tabuns; Jessica Bell; Alexa Gilmour; Robin Lennox.

Projet de loi 144, Loi créant le comité consultatif pour les panneaux solaires enfichables. Peter Tabuns; Jessica Bell; Alexa Gilmour; Robin Lennox.

Orders of the Day

Ordres du jour

Second Reading of Bill 140, An Act to enact two Acts and to amend various Acts.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 140, Loi édictant deux lois et modifiant diverses lois.

Debate resumed, during which the Acting Speaker (Jennifer K. French) interrupted the proceedings and announced that there had been six and one-half hours of debate and that the debate would be deemed adjourned.

Le débat a repris. La présidente suppléante (Jennifer K. French) a interrompu les travaux et a annoncé qu’il y avait eu six heures et demie de débat et que le débat serait réputé ajourné.

The Deputy Government House Leader (Anthony Leardi) directed that the debate should continue.

Le leader parlementaire adjoint du gouvernement (Anthony Leardi) a indiqué que le débat devrait se poursuivre.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

Hon. Steve Clark moved, under Standing Order 51 “That this question be now put”.

L’hon. Steve Clark a proposé, conformément à l’article 51 du Règlement « Que cette question soit maintenant mise aux voix ».

Vote deferred.

Le vote est différé.

With unanimous consent,

Avec le consentement unanime,

Ordered, That notwithstanding Standing Order 9(a), the House agreed to commence Private Members’ Public Business before 6:00 p.m. today.

Ordonné que, nonobstant l’article 9 a) du Règlement, l’Assemblée a accepté de commencer les affaires d’intérêt public émanant des députées et députés avant 18 h aujourd’hui.

Private Members' Public Business

Affaires d'intérêt public émanant des députées et députés

Stéphane Sarrazin moved,

Stéphane Sarrazin a proposé,

Private Members’ Notice of Motion No. 79:

Avis de motion émanant des députées et députés no 79 :

That, in the opinion of this House, the Government of Ontario should review and analyze appropriate deterrence measures, including increased fines and penalties under the Highway Traffic Act, to address motorists who access and drive on fully closed highways during emergency situations.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Carried.

Adoptée.

Resolved, That, in the opinion of this House, the Government of Ontario should review and analyze appropriate deterrence measures, including increased fines and penalties under the Highway Traffic Act, to address motorists who access and drive on fully closed highways during emergency situations.

The House adjourned at 6:33 p.m.

À 18 h 33, l’Assemblée a ajourné ses travaux.


Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 43

Documents Parlementaires déposés conformément à l'article 43 du règlement

No., Suffix/Nº, SuffixeTitle/TitreDate tabled/Date de dépôt
401Tribunals Ontario, consisting of: Animal Care Review Board; Assessment Review Board; Child and Family Services Review Board; Custody Review Board; Fire Safety Commission; Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario; Landlord and Tenant Board; Licence Appeal Tribunal; Ontario Civilian Police Commission; Ontario Parole Board; Ontario Special Education Tribunal (English); Ontario Special Education Tribunal (French); and Social Benefits Tribunal, 2025-2026 Annual ReportOctober 29, 2026/29 octobre 2026
403Compendia: Hon. Peter Bethlenfalvy, Bill 143, An Act to implement Budget measures and to enact and amend various statutes/Dossier à l’appui : L'hon. Peter Bethlenfalvy, Projet de loi 143, Loi visant à mettre en œuvre les mesures budgétaires et à édicter et à modifier diverses loisOctober 29, 2026/29 octobre 2026
404Compendia: Ministry of Finance, Compendium to the Statement by the Minister of Finance, pursuant to Standing Order 40(d), regarding the 2026 Fall Economic Statement/Ministère des Finances, Dossier à l’appui de la déclaration du ministre des Finances conformément à l’article 40 d) du Règlement concernant l'Exposé économique de l'automne 2026October 29, 2026/29 octobre 2026
405Temagami Forest Management Corporation, 2025-2026 Annual ReportOctober 29, 2026/29 octobre 2026
406Nawiinginokiima Forest Management Corporation, 2025-2026 Annual ReportOctober 29, 2026/29 octobre 2026
407Ontario Food Terminal Board, 2025-2026 Annual Report/Commission du marché des produits alimentaires de l’Ontario, Rapport annuel 2025-2026October 29, 2026/29 octobre 2026

Responses To Written Questions

Réponses Aux Questions Écrites

No./NºSubmitted by/Présentée parOutcome/Résultat
150Guy BourgouinFinal answer tabled October 29, 2026/Réponse finale déposée le 29 octobre 2026
151Guy BourgouinFinal answer tabled October 29, 2026/Réponse finale déposée le 29 octobre 2026
152Guy BourgouinFinal answer tabled October 29, 2026/Réponse finale déposée le 29 octobre 2026

Responses to Petitions

Réponses aux pétitions

No./NºPetition title/Titre de la pétitionPresented by/Présentée parDate tabled/Date de dépôt
P-17Social assistance ratesJessica BellApril 22, 2026/22 avril 2026
Bobbi Ann BradyApril 23, 2026/23 avril 2026
Jeff BurchMay 13, 2026/13 mai 2026
Aislinn ClancyMay 11, 2026/11 mai 2026
 May 26, 2026/26 mai 2026
Lucille CollardMay 26, 2026/26 mai 2026
Jennifer K. FrenchMay 26, 2026/26 mai 2026
Alexa GilmourApril 13, 2026/13 avril 2026
Lisa GretzkyApril 23, 2026/23 avril 2026
 June 1, 2026/1er juin 2026
Ted HsuApril 14, 2026/14 avril 2026
 June 1, 2026/1er juin 2026
Robin LennoxMay 28, 2026/28 mai 2026
Sol MamakwaMay 12, 2026/12 mai 2026
Catherine McKenneyApril 20, 2026/20 avril 2026
 May 28, 2026/28 mai 2026
Mary-Margaret McMahonApril 15, 2026/15 avril 2026
Chandra PasmaApril 22, 2026/22 avril 2026
 May 6, 2026/6 mai 2026
Tom RakocevicMay 12, 2026/12 mai 2026
 May 27, 2026/27 mai 2026
Peggy SattlerJune 1, 2026/1er juin 2026
Lise VaugeoisApril 16, 2026/16 avril 2026
 May 27, 2026/27 mai 2026
Jamie WestApril 14, 2026/14 avril 2026
 May 12, 2026/12 mai 2026
Kristyn Wong-TamMay 6, 2026/6 mai 2026
P-25Public education fundingStephen BlaisJune 1, 2026/1er juin 2026
Stephanie BowmanApril 20, 2026/20 avril 2026
Bobbi Ann BradyApril 16, 2026/16 avril 2026
Jeff BurchMay 13, 2026/13 mai 2026
Aislinn ClancyMay 26, 2026/26 mai 2026
Lucille CollardMay 13, 2026/13 mai 2026
Jennifer K. FrenchMay 27, 2026/27 mai 2026
Wayne GatesMay 14, 2026/14 mai 2026
France GélinasApril 14, 2026/14 avril 2026
 June 1, 2026/1er juin 2026
Alexa GilmourApril 13, 2026/13 avril 2026
Lisa GretzkyApril 23, 2026/23 avril 2026
Andrea HazellJune 1, 2026/1er juin 2026
Robin LennoxMay 26, 2026/26 mai 2026
Sol MamakwaMay 4, 2026/4 mai 2026
Catherine McKenneyApril 13, 2026/13 avril 2026
Mary-Margaret McMahonApril 16, 2026/16 avril 2026
Tom RakocevicMay 12, 2026/12 mai 2026
Sandy ShawApril 20, 2026/20 avril 2026
Stephanie SmythJune 1, 2026/1er juin 2026
Peter TabunsJune 1, 2026/1er juin 2026
Jamie WestApril 14, 2026/14 avril 2026
Kristyn Wong-TamApril 13, 2026/13 avril 2026
 May 6, 2026/ 6 mai 2026
P-132Temperature regulations for extreme heatCatherine McKenneyApril 13, 2026/13 avril 2026
Peter TabunsJune 1, 2026/1er juin 2026
P-153OSAP funding and grantsStephen BlaisMay 5, 2026/5 mai 2026
Stephanie BowmanMay 7, 2026/7 mai 2026
Aislinn ClancyApril 15, 2026/15 avril 2026
Lucille CollardApril 13, 2026/13 avril 2026
Jennifer K. FrenchMay 26, 2026/26 mai 2026
France GélinasApril 14, 2026/14 avril 2026
 June 1, 2026/1er juin 2026
Robin LennoxJune 2, 2026/2 juin 2026
Karen McCrimmonMay 4, 2026/4 mai 2026
Catherine McKenneyMay 28, 2026/28 mai 2026
Peggy SattlerApril 13, 2026/13 avril 2026
 April 23, 2026/23 avril 2026
 May 27, 2026/27 mai 2026
Adil ShamjiApril 16, 2026/16 avril 2026
Sandy ShawMay 27, 2026/27 mai 2026
Lise VaugeoisMay 28, 2026/28 mai 2026
Tyler WattMay 25, 2026/25 mai 2026
P-168Above guideline rent increasesCatherine FifeApril 13, 2026/13 avril 2026