42e législature, 1re session

Legislative

Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée

législative
de l’Ontario


Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

No. 32

No 32

1st Session
42nd Parliament

1re session
42e législature

Wednesday
October 3, 2018

Mercredi

3 octobre 2018

9:00 A.M.
9 H
PRAYERS
PRIÈRES

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Mr. Smith (Bay of Quinte) moved,

M. Smith (Baie de Quinte) propose,

That, pursuant to Standing Order 47 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 36, An Act to enact a new Act and make amendments to various other Acts respecting the use and sale of cannabis and vapour products in Ontario, when the Bill is next called as a Government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Second Reading stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, at such time the Bill shall be ordered referred to the Standing Committee on Social Policy; and

That the Standing Committee on Social Policy be authorized to meet on Thursday, October 11, 2018 from 12:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. and Friday, October 12, 2018 from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. for public hearings on the Bill; and

That the Clerk of the Committee, in consultation with the Committee Chair, be authorized to arrange the following with regard to Bill 36:

• That the deadline for requests to appear be 5:00 p.m. on Friday, October 5, 2018; and

• That, the Clerk of the Committee provide a list of all interested presenters to each member of the Sub-committee following the deadline for requests to appear by 11:00 a.m. on Tuesday October 9, 2018; and

• That, each member of the Sub-committee provide the Clerk of the Committee with a prioritized list of presenters to be scheduled, chosen from the list of all interested presenters received by the Clerk, by 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday October 9, 2018; and

• That each witness will receive up to ten minutes for their presentation followed by ten minutes for questions divided equally amongst the recognized parties; and

That the deadline for filing written submissions be 12:00 p.m. on Friday, October 12, 2018; and

That the deadline for filing amendments to the Bill with the Clerk of the Committee shall be 6:00 p.m. on Friday, October 12, 2018; and

That the Standing Committee on Social Policy shall be authorized to meet on Monday, October 15, 2018 from 9:00 a.m. to 10:15 a.m. and from 2:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. for clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill; and

That on Monday, October 15, 2018 at 5:30 p.m., those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the Bill and any amendments thereto. At this time, the Chair shall allow one 20-minute waiting period pursuant to Standing Order 129(a); and

That the Committee shall report the Bill to the House no later than Tuesday, October 16, 2018. In the event that the Committee fails to report the Bill on that day, the Bill shall be deemed to be passed by the Committee and shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House; and

That, upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Social Policy, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, and at such time the Bill shall be ordered for Third Reading, which Order may be called that same day; and

That, when the Order for Third Reading of the Bill is called, two hours of debate shall be allotted to the Third Reading stage of the Bill with fifty minutes allotted to the Government; fifty minutes allotted to Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition; ten minutes to the Independent Liberal Members, and ten minutes allotted to the Independent Green Member; and

That at the end of this time, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, notwithstanding Standing Order 81(c), the Bill may be called more than once in the same sessional day; and

That, except in the case of a recorded division arising from morning Orders of the Day pursuant to Standing Order 9(c), no deferral of the Second Reading or Third Reading vote shall be permitted; and

That, in the case of any division relating to any proceedings on the Bill, the division bell shall be limited to 10 minutes.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Vote deferred.

Le vote est différé.

At 9:57 a.m., the Government House Leader indicated that no further morning business would be called and therefore the House recessed.

À 9 h 57, le leader parlementaire du gouvernement a indiqué que l’ordre du jour de la séance du matin étant épuisé, la Chambre suspendait ses travaux.

10:30 A.M.
10 H 30

ORAL QUESTIONS

QUESTIONS ORALES

DEFERRED VOTES

VOTES DIFFÉRÉS

Amendment to the motion for allocation of time on Bill 4, An Act respecting the preparation of a climate change plan, providing for the wind down of the cap and trade program and repealing the Climate Change Mitigation and Low-carbon Economy Act, 2018.

Mr. Bisson moved:-

M. Bisson propose :-

That the motion be amended as follows:

In the third paragraph, delete the words “and Wednesday, October 17, 2018” and replace with the words “…,Wednesday, October 17, 2018, Monday, October 22, 2018 and Wednesday, October 24, 2018”; and

In the tenth paragraph, delete the number “17” and replace with the number “24”; and

In the eleventh paragraph, delete the number “19” and replace with the number “26”; and

In the twelfth paragraph, delete the words “Monday, October 22” and replace with “Wednesday, October 31” and delete the words “October 24” and replace with the words “November 14”; and

In the thirteenth paragraph, delete the words “October 24” and replace with the words “November 14”; and

In the fourteenth paragraph, delete the words “October 25” and replace with the words “November 15”.

Lost on the following division:-

Rejetée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 39

Armstrong

Bell

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

Fife

Fraser

French

Gates

Gélinas

Glover

Gretzky

Harden

Hassan

Hatfield

Horwath

Karpoche

Kernaghan

Lalonde

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Natyshak

Rakocevic

Sattler

Schreiner

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Singh (Brampton East)

Stevens

Stiles

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

West

Wynne

Yarde

NAYS / CONTRE - 70

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Barrett

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Downey

Dunlop

Fedeli

Fee

Fullerton

Ghamari

Gill

Hardeman

Harris

Hillier

Hogarth

Jones

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Ke

Khanjin

Kramp

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

McNaughton

Mitas

Mulroney

Nicholls

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Romano

Sabawy

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Scott

Simard

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough–Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Wilson

Yakabuski

Yurek

Motion for allocation of time on Bill 4, An Act respecting the preparation of a climate change plan, providing for the wind down of the cap and trade program and repealing the Climate Change Mitigation and Low-carbon Economy Act, 2018.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 70

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Barrett

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Downey

Dunlop

Ghamari

Gill

Hardeman

Harris

Hillier

Hogarth

Jones

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Ke

Khanjin

Kramp

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

McKenna

McNaughton

Mitas

Mulroney

Nicholls

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Romano

Sarkaria

Scott

Simard

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough–Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Wilson

AYES / POUR - Continued

Fedeli

Fee

Fullerton

Martin

Martow

McDonell

Sabawy

Sandhu

Yakabuski

Yurek

NAYS / CONTRE - 39

Armstrong

Bell

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

Fife

Fraser

French

Gates

Gélinas

Glover

Gretzky

Harden

Hassan

Hatfield

Horwath

Karpoche

Kernaghan

Lalonde

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Natyshak

Rakocevic

Sattler

Schreiner

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Singh (Brampton East)

Stevens

Stiles

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

West

Wynne

Yarde

Ordered, That, pursuant to Standing Order 47 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 4, An Act respecting the preparation of a climate change plan, providing for the wind down of the cap and trade program and repealing the Climate Change Mitigation and Low-carbon Economy Act, 2016, when the Bill is next called as a Government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Second Reading stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, at such time the Bill shall be ordered referred to the Standing Committee on General Government; and

That the Standing Committee on General Government be authorized to meet on Monday, October 15, 2018 and Wednesday, October 17, 2018, from 9:00 a.m. to 10:15 a.m. and from 3:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. for public hearings on the Bill; and

That the Clerk of the Committee, in consultation with the committee Chair, be authorized to arrange the following with regard to Bill 4:

That the deadline for requests to appear be 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, October 9, 2018; and

That, the Clerk of the Committee provide a list of all interested presenters to each member of the subcommittee and the independent member of the Committee, following the deadline for requests to appear by 3:00 p.m. on Tuesday October 9, 2018; and

That, each member of the subcommittee and the independent member of the Committee provide the Clerk of the Committee with a prioritized list of presenters to be scheduled, chosen from the list of all interested presenters received by the Clerk by 5:00 p.m. on Thursday, October 11, 2018; and

That, one selection of the independent member of the Committee be scheduled by the Clerk of the Committee for each day of public hearings.

That each witness will receive up to ten minutes for their presentation followed by ten minutes for questions from Committee members with two minutes allotted to the independent member of the Committee for questioning and eight minutes divided equally amongst the recognized parties for questioning; and

That the deadline for filing written submissions be 6:00 p.m. on Wednesday, October 17, 2018; and

That the deadline for filing amendments to the Bill with the Clerk of the Committee shall be 12:00 p.m. on Friday, October 19, 2018; and

That the Standing Committee on General Government shall be authorized to meet on Monday, October 22, 2018, from 9:00 a.m. to 10:15 a.m. and from 2:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m., and Wednesday, October 24, 2018, from 9:00 a.m. to 10:15 a.m. and from 2:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. for clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill; and

That on Wednesday, October 24, 2018, at 5:30 p.m., those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the Bill and any amendments thereto. At this time, the Chair shall allow one 20-minute waiting period pursuant to Standing Order 129(a); and

That the Committee shall report the Bill to the House no later than Thursday, October 25, 2018.

In the event that the Committee fails to report the Bill on that day, the Bill shall be deemed to be passed by the Committee and shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House; and

That, upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on General Government, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, and at such time the Bill shall be ordered for Third Reading, which Order may be called that same day; and

That, when the Order for Third Reading of the Bill is called, two and one-half hours of debate shall be allotted to the Third Reading stage of the Bill with one hour allotted to the Government; one hour allotted to Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition; twenty minutes to the Independent Liberal Members, and ten minutes allotted to the Independent Green Member; and

That at the end of this time, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, notwithstanding Standing Order 81(c), the Bill may be called more than once in the same sessional day; and

That the vote on Third Reading may be deferred pursuant to Standing Order 28(h); and

That, in the case of any division relating to any proceedings on the Bill, the division bell shall be limited to 10 minutes.

Motion for allocation of time on Bill 36, An Act to enact a new Act and make amendments to various other Acts respecting the use and sale of cannabis and vapour products in Ontario.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 70

Anand

Baber

Babikian

Bailey

Barrett

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Downey

Dunlop

Ghamari

Gill

Hardeman

Harris

Hillier

Hogarth

Jones

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Ke

Khanjin

Kramp

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

McKenna

McNaughton

Mitas

Mulroney

Nicholls

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Romano

Sarkaria

Scott

Simard

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough–Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Wilson

AYES / POUR - Continued

Fedeli

Fee

Fullerton

Martin

Martow

McDonell

Sabawy

Sandhu

Yakabuski

Yurek

NAYS / CONTRE - 39

Armstrong

Bell

Bisson

Bourgouin

Burch

Fife

Fraser

French

Gates

Gélinas

Glover

Gretzky

Harden

Hassan

Hatfield

Horwath

Karpoche

Kernaghan

Lalonde

Lindo

Mamakwa

Mantha

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Natyshak

Rakocevic

Sattler

Schreiner

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Singh (Brampton East)

Stevens

Stiles

Tabuns

Taylor

Vanthof

West

Wynne

Yarde

Ordered, That, pursuant to Standing Order 47 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 36, An Act to enact a new Act and make amendments to various other Acts respecting the use and sale of cannabis and vapour products in Ontario, when the Bill is next called as a Government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the Second Reading stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, at such time the Bill shall be ordered referred to the Standing Committee on Social Policy; and

That the Standing Committee on Social Policy be authorized to meet on Thursday, October 11, 2018 from 12:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. and Friday, October 12, 2018 from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. for public hearings on the Bill; and

That the Clerk of the Committee, in consultation with the Committee Chair, be authorized to arrange the following with regard to Bill 36:

• That the deadline for requests to appear be 5:00 p.m. on Friday, October 5, 2018; and

• That, the Clerk of the Committee provide a list of all interested presenters to each member of the Sub-committee following the deadline for requests to appear by 11:00 a.m. on Tuesday October 9, 2018; and

• That, each member of the Sub-committee provide the Clerk of the Committee with a prioritized list of presenters to be scheduled, chosen from the list of all interested presenters received by the Clerk, by 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday October 9, 2018; and

• That each witness will receive up to ten minutes for their presentation followed by ten minutes for questions divided equally amongst the recognized parties; and

That the deadline for filing written submissions be 12:00 p.m. on Friday, October 12, 2018; and

That the deadline for filing amendments to the Bill with the Clerk of the Committee shall be 6:00 p.m. on Friday, October 12, 2018; and

That the Standing Committee on Social Policy shall be authorized to meet on Monday, October 15, 2018 from 9:00 a.m. to 10:15 a.m. and from 2:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. for clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill; and

That on Monday, October 15, 2018 at 5:30 p.m., those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the Bill and any amendments thereto. At this time, the Chair shall allow one 20-minute waiting period pursuant to Standing Order 129(a); and

That the Committee shall report the Bill to the House no later than Tuesday, October 16, 2018. In the event that the Committee fails to report the Bill on that day, the Bill shall be deemed to be passed by the Committee and shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House; and

That, upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Social Policy, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, and at such time the Bill shall be ordered for Third Reading, which Order may be called that same day; and

That, when the Order for Third Reading of the Bill is called, two hours of debate shall be allotted to the Third Reading stage of the Bill with fifty minutes allotted to the Government; fifty minutes allotted to Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition; ten minutes to the Independent Liberal Members, and ten minutes allotted to the Independent Green Member; and

That at the end of this time, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the Bill without further debate or amendment; and

That, notwithstanding Standing Order 81(c), the Bill may be called more than once in the same sessional day; and

That, except in the case of a recorded division arising from morning Orders of the Day pursuant to Standing Order 9(c), no deferral of the Second Reading or Third Reading vote shall be permitted; and

That, in the case of any division relating to any proceedings on the Bill, the division bell shall be limited to 10 minutes.

The House recessed at 12:05 p.m.

À 12 h 05, la Chambre a suspendu la séance.

3:00 P.M.
15 H

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI

The following Bills were introduced and read the first time:-

Les projets de loi suivants sont présentés et lus une première fois :-

Bill 38, An Act to amend the Business Corporations Act and the Real Estate and Business Brokers Act, 2002 with respect to personal real estate corporations. Mr. Bailey.

Projet de loi 38, Loi modifiant la Loi sur les sociétés par actions et la Loi de 2002 sur le courtage commercial et immobilier relativement aux sociétés personnelles immobilières. M. Bailey.

Bill 39, An Act to require the establishment of an Accessible Parking and Towing Industry Review Committee. Mrs. Martow.

Projet de loi 39, Loi exigeant la constitution d’un comité d’examen du stationnement accessible et du secteur de remorquage. Mme Martow.

Bill 40, An Act to amend the Human Rights Code with respect to genetic characteristics. Miss Mitas.

Projet de loi 40, Loi modifiant le Code des droits de la personne en ce qui a trait aux caractéristiques génétiques. Mlle Mitas.

Bill 41, An Act to amend the Highway Traffic Act to exempt Sikh motorcyclists from the requirement to wear a helmet. Mr. Sarkaria.

Projet de loi 41, Loi modifiant le Code de la route pour exempter les motocyclistes sikhs de l’obligation de porter un casque. M. Sarkaria.

PETITIONS

PÉTITIONS

Health and physical education curriculum (Sessional Paper No. P-2) Ms. Morrison.

Implementing minimum wage (Sessional Paper No. P-4) Ms. Bell.

Basic Income Pilot Project (Sessional Paper No. P-22) Mr. Schreiner.

Injured workers (Sessional Paper No. P-36) Ms. French and Mr. Harden.

Addiction withdrawal management services (Sessional Paper No. P-54) Mr. Bailey, Ms. Dunlop, Mrs. Karahalios, Mrs. Martow, Mr. Sabawy and Mr. Thanigasalam.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Second Reading of Bill 4, An Act respecting the preparation of a climate change plan, providing for the wind down of the cap and trade program and repealing the Climate Change Mitigation and Low-carbon Economy Act, 2016.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 4, Loi concernant l’élaboration d’un plan sur le changement climatique, prévoyant la liquidation du programme de plafonnement et d’échange et abrogeant la Loi de 2016 sur l’atténuation du changement climatique et une économie sobre en carbone.

Pursuant to the Order of the House passed earlier today,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée adopté plus tôt aujourd’hui,

The question was then put.

La question a ensuite été mise aux voix.

Carried.

Adoptée.

Pursuant to the Order of the House passed earlier today,

Conformément à l’ordre de l’Assemblée adopté plus tôt aujourd’hui,

Referred to the Standing Committee on General Government.

Renvoyé au Comité permanent des affaires gouvernementales.

Second Reading of Bill 32, An Act to amend the Ontario Energy Board Act, 1998.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 32, Loi modifiant la Loi de 1998 sur la Commission de l’énergie de l’Ontario.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

At 5:58 p.m., the following matters were considered in an adjournment debate.

À 17 h 58, les questions suivantes ont été examinées dans un débat d’ajournement.

Member for Kitchener Centre (Ms. Lindo) to the Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Community Safety and Correctional Services – Denouncing Faith Goldy’s use of the Ford Government’s name and brand in robocalls and claiming that she is the “Ford Candidate”.

Member for Ottawa South (Mr. Fraser) to the Parliamentary Assistant to the Premier – Denouncing Faith Goldy.

The House adjourned at 6:20 p.m.

À 18 h 20, la Chambre a ajourné ses travaux.

le président

Ted Arnott

Speaker

PETITIONS TABLED PURSUANT TO
STANDING ORDER 39(a)

PÉTITIONS DÉPOSÉES CONFORMÉMENT À L’ARTICLE
39 a) DU RÈGLEMENT

Repeal of the 2015 Health and Physical Education curriculum (Sessional Paper No. P-48) (Tabled October 3, 2018) Mr. Oosterhoff and Mr. Walker.

Lyme disease (Sessional Paper No. P-55) (Tabled October 3, 2018) Mr. Mantha.