37e législature, 3e session

No. 23

No 23

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée législative
de l'Ontario

Wednesday
June 19, 2002


Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 37
Evening Meeting - Sessional Day 38

Mercredi
19 juin 2002


Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 37
Séance du soir - jour de session 38

3rd Session,
37th Parliament

3e session
37e législature

PRAYERS
1:30 P.M.

PRIÈRES
13 H 30

The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-

I beg to inform the House that today the Clerk received the First Report/premier rapport of the Standing Committee on Government Agencies. Pursuant to Standing Order 106(e), the Report is deemed to be adopted by the House (Sessional Paper No. 25).

REPORTS BY COMMITTEES

RAPPORTS DES COMITÉS

Mr. Kennedy from the Standing Committee on Estimates presented the Committee's report as follows:-

Pursuant to Standing Order 59, your Committee has selected the Estimates (2002-2003) of the following ministries and offices for consideration:-

Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Ministry of Education 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Ministry of Environment and Energy 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Office of the Premier 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Ministry of Intergovernmental Affairs 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Ministry of Northern Development and Mines 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Ministry of Community, Family and Children's Services 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Ministry of Natural Resources 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Ministry of Public Safety and Security 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Ministry of Tourism and Recreation 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Ministry of Enterprise, Opportunity and Innovation 7 hrs. 30 mins.

Pursuant to Standing Order 60, the Estimates (2002-2003) of the following ministries and offices not selected for consideration are deemed passed by the Committee and reported to the House in accordance with the terms of the Standing Order and are deemed to be received and concurred in:-

MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND FOOD

Ministry Administration $ 11,326,600 Agriculture and Rural Economic Development/

Research and Technology Transfer 269,983,600

Investment and Market Development 6,648,400

Risk Management 122,711,500

MINISTRY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

Ministry Administration $ 89,000,000

Prosecuting Crime 91,664,600

Family Justice Services 214,475,300

Legal Services 13,147,000

Court Services 201,611,300

Victims' Services 41,914,900

CABINET OFFICE

Cabinet Office $ 11,455,300

MINISTRY OF CITIZENSHIP

Ministry Administration $ 12,575,500

Citizenship 21,917,200

Ontario Women's Directorate 9,115,800

Ontario Seniors' Secretariat 679,100

Regional Services 4,889,100

MINISTRY OF CONSUMER AND BUSINESS SERVICES

Ministry Administration $ 22,660,600

Registration 27,762,200

Consumer Protection and Public Safety/Business Standards 4,095,600

Alcohol and Gaming Management 18,687,200

Integrated Service Delivery 15,884,400

MINISTRY OF CULTURE

Ministry Administration $ 1,000

Culture 93,801,700

Ontario Trillium Foundation 1,000

Culture Capital 3,000

MINISTRY OF FINANCE

Ministry Administration $ 36,165,300

Tax Policy, Budget and Revenue Operations 257,176,800

Economic, Fiscal, and Financial Policy 700,627,800

Financial Services Industry Regulation 16,235,900

Strategic Infrastructure Investments and Partnerships 128,991,600

Central Agencies Information and Information Technology Cluster 1,000

OFFICE OF FRANCOPHONE AFFAIRS

Francophone Affairs $ 2,487,300

MINISTRY OF LABOUR

Ministry Administration $ 7,562,100

Pay Equity Commission 2,660,000

Labour Relations 13,585,000

Occupational Health and Safety 17,974,200

Employment Rights and Responsibilities 8,347,300

Economic and Business Cluster Information Technology 120,900

OFFICE OF THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR

Office of the Lieutenant Governor $ 494,100

MANAGEMENT BOARD SECRETARIAT

Ministry Administration $ 10,713,100

Realty Services 55,880,900

Corporate Controllership 248,515,600

Information and Information Technology 1,373,400

Shared Services 3,044,900

Archives of Ontario 4,463,400

MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS AND HOUSING

Ministry Administration $ 22,860,500

Local Government 16,478,000

Land Use Planning 8,052,600

Housing Market 400,334,900

Building Regulation 2,669,300

ONTARIO NATIVE AFFAIRS SECRETARIAT

Ontario Native Affairs Secretariat $ 15,164,600

MINISTRY OF TRANSPORTATION

Ministry Administration $ 31,977,900

Transportation Policy and Planning 293,031,100

Road User Safety 102,753,900

Provincial Highways Management 654,336,100

Transportation Information and Information Technology Cluster 43,293,300

Mr. Marchese from the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills presented the Committee's Report which was read as follows and adopted:-

M. Marchese du Comité permanent des règlements et des projets de loi d'intérêt privé présente le rapport du comité qui est lu comme suit et adopté:-

Your Committee begs to report the following Bill without amendment:-

Votre comité propose qu'il soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant sans amendement:-

Bill Pr5, An Act respecting Groves Memorial Community Hospital.

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI

The following Bills were introduced and read the first time:-

Les projets de loi suivants sont présentés et lus une première fois:-

Bill 110, An Act to control mega-hog farms. Mr. Lalonde.

Projet de loi 110, Loi visant à contrôler les grosses exploitations porcines. M. Lalonde.

Bill 111, An Act to amend the Highway Traffic Act. Mr. Levac.

Projet de loi 111, Loi modifiant le Code de la route. M. Levac.

The following Bill was introduced, read the first time and referred to the Commissioners of Estate Bills:-

Le projet de loi suivant est présenté, lu une première fois et déféré aux commissaires aux projets de loi ayant trait à une succession:-

Bill Pr9, An Act respecting The Elliott. Mr. Arnott.

With unanimous consent, on motion by Mr. Bartolucci,

Avec le consentement unanime, sur la motion de M. Bartolucci,

Resolved, That the Legislative Assembly of Ontario calls upon the Solicitor General to undertake the following three directives, as demanded by the JoeMac Committee during its February 18, 2002 meeting with Mr. MacAulay:

1. Ensure the immediate return of Clinton Suzack and Peter Pennett to maximum security to serve the duration of their 25-year sentence for the first-degree murder of Constable Joe MacDonald.

2. Order an external review of Correctional Services of Canada in light of compelling and irrefutable evidence that CSC continues to pursue a dangerous and illegal policy whereby prisoners are cascaded to lower security settings and ultimately freedom, based not on individual risk assessments but on meeting numerical targets or 'quotas'.

3. Follow through with a commitment made in April 2000 before a Federal Justice Committee whereby he denied the existence of the aforementioned policy and offered to confirm this in writing to the CSC Commissioner, Wardens and Staff that the prisoners must not be cascaded to lower security settings and ultimately, freedom based on numerical quotas.

DEFERRED VOTES

VOTES DIFFÉRÉS

The deferred vote on the motion for Third Reading of Bill 124, An Act to improve public safety and to increase efficiency in building code enforcement was carried on the following division:-

La motion portant troisième lecture du projet de loi 124, Loi visant à améliorer la sécurité publique et à accroître l'efficacité dans l'exécution du code du bâtiment, mise aux voix sur le vote différé, est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 53

Arnott

Baird

Barrett

Beaubien

Chudleigh

Clark

Clement

Coburn

Cunningham

DeFaria

Dunlop

Ecker

Elliott

Eves

Flaherty

Galt

Gilchrist

Gill

Guzzo

Hastings

Hodgson

Hudak

Jackson

Johns

Johnson

Kells

Klees

Marland

Martiniuk

Maves

Mazzilli

McDonald

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Murdoch

Mushinski

Newman

O'Toole

Ouellette

Runciman

Sampson

Spina

Sterling

Stewart

Stockwell

Tascona

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wilson

Witmer

Wood

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 33

Agostino

Bartolucci

Bisson

Bountrogianni

Boyer

Bradley

Brown

Bryant

Caplan

Churley

Cleary

Colle

Conway

Crozier

Di Cocco

Dombrowsky

Duncan

Gerretsen

Gravelle

Hoy

Kennedy

Kormos

Lalonde

Levac

Marchese

Martin

McGuinty

McLeod

Patten

Phillips

Ramsay

Ruprecht

Smitherman

And the Bill was accordingly read the third time and was passed.

En conséquence, ce projet de loi est lu une troisième fois et adopté.

PETITIONS

PÉTITIONS

Petition relating to the Development of legislation to support caregivers who care for their relatives in their homes (Sessional Paper No. P-3) Mr. O'Toole.

Petition relating to Cost of living increase to the recipients of benefits through the Ontario Disability Support Program (Sessional Paper No. P-5) Mrs. McLeod.

Petitions relating to Stopping the deregulation and privatization of Ontario's electricity system (Sessional Paper No. P-8) Mr. Caplan, Mr. Curling and Mr. Gravelle.

Petition relating to Establishing a community health centre in Centre Hastings (Sessional Paper No. P-10) Mrs. Dombrowsky.

Petition relating to Convening a Select Committee on the Auto Industry (Sessional Paper No. P-17) Mr. Bradley.

Petition relating to Community care access centres (Sessional Paper No. P-29) Mrs. McLeod.

Petition relating to Closing the cardiac surgery services at Children's Hospital of Eastern Ontario (Sessional Paper No. P-36) Mr. Conway.

Petition relating to Severance packages to senior executives of Hydro One (Sessional Paper No. P-45) Mr. O'Toole.

Petition relating to the Environmental Bill of Rights (Sessional Paper No. P-57) Mr. Gravelle.

Petition relating to Saturday international language classes (Sessional Paper No. P-58) Mr. Caplan.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Mr. Baird moved,

M. Baird propose,

That pursuant to Standing Order 46 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 80, An Act respecting directors and officers of Hydro One Inc. and its subsidiaries, when Bill 80 is next called as a government order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill, without further debate or amendment, and

That, the vote on second reading may, pursuant to Standing Order 28(h), be deferred until the next Sessional day during the Routine Proceeding "Deferred Votes"; and

That on the same day that the bill receives second reading, it may be called for third reading and;

When the order for third reading is called, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or amendment; and

That no deferral of the third reading vote pursuant to Standing Order 28(h) shall be permitted; and

That, in the case of any division relating to any proceedings on the bill, the division bell shall be limited to five minutes.

A debate arising, after some time, Mr. Baird moved the adjournment of the debate, which motion was lost on the following division:-

Un débat s'ensuit, après quelque temps, M. Baird propose l'ajournement du débat. Cette motion est rejetée par le vote suivant:-

Ayes - 22 Nays - 47

Pour - 22 Contre - 47

The debate continued and, after some time, Mr. Baird moved the adjournment of the House, which motion was lost on the following division:-

Le débat se poursuit et après quelque temps, M. Baird propose l'ajournement des travaux de l'Assemblée. Cette motion est rejetée par le vote suivant:-

Ayes - 24 Nays - 47

Pour - 24 Contre - 47

After some time, Mr. Baird moved:-

Après quelque temps, M. Baird propose:-

That Government notice of motion number 32 be amended by deleting the second paragraph and substituting the following therefor:-

"That, the vote on second reading may not be deferred; and"

The debate continued and, after some time, Mr. Baird moved the adjournment of the debate, which motion was lost on the following division:

Le débat se poursuit et après quelque temps, M. Baird propose l'ajournement du débat. Cette motion est rejetée par le vote suivant:

Ayes - 0 Nays - 48

Pour - 0 Contre - 48

The debate continued and, after some time, Mr. Baird withdrew the amendment to the motion.

Le débat se poursuit et après quelque temps,
M. Baird retire l'amendement à la motion.

After some time, the motion was carried on the following division:-

Après quelque temps, la motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 50

Arnott

Baird

Barrett

Beaubien

Chudleigh

Clark

Clement

Coburn

Cunningham

DeFaria

Dunlop

Ecker

Elliott

Eves

Flaherty

Galt

Gilchrist

Gill

Guzzo

Hastings

Hodgson

Jackson

Johns

Kells

Klees

Marland

Martiniuk

Maves

Mazzilli

McDonald

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Murdoch

Mushinski

O'Toole

Ouellette

Runciman

Sampson

Spina

Sterling

Stewart

Stockwell

Tascona

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wilson

Witmer

Wood

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 24

Bartolucci

Bisson

Bountrogianni

Bradley

Brown

Bryant

Caplan

Churley

Conway

Curling

Di Cocco

Dombrowsky

Gerretsen

Gravelle

Kormos

Lalonde

Marchese

Martel

Martin

McLeod

Patten

Ramsay

Ruprecht

Sergio

The House then adjourned at 6:05 p.m.

À 18 h 05, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

6:45 P.M.

18 H 45

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Debate was resumed on the Amendment to the motion that this House approves in general the Budgetary Policy of the Government.

Le débat reprend sur l'amendement à la motion portant que la présente Assemblée adopte en général la politique budgétaire du gouvernement.

During the debate, the Acting Speaker
(Mr. Johnson) repeatedly requested the Member for Niagara Centre (Mr. Kormos) to come to order.

Pendant le débat, le président par intérim, M. Johnson demande à plusieurs reprises au député de Niagara-Centre, M. Kormos de se comporter.

The Member having refused was named by the Speaker and directed to withdraw from the service of the House for the balance of the sessional day.

Comme le député refuse d'obéir, le Président par intérim le désigne par son nom et l'ordonne de se retirer du service de l'Assemblée pour le reste du jour de session.

After some time, pursuant to Standing Order 9(a), the motion for the adjournment of the debate was deemed to have been made and carried.

Après quelque temps, conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir été proposée et adoptée.

The House then adjourned at 9:30 p.m.

À 21 h 30, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

le président

GARY CARR

Speaker

PETITIONS TABLED PURSUANT TO STANDING ORDER 38 (A)

Petition relating to Cancelling corporate tax cuts and private school tax vouchers (Sessional Paper No. P-56) Mr. Duncan.