Legislative Assembly of Ontario

Legislative

Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée

législative
de l’Ontario

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

No. 54

No 54

1st Session
42nd Parliament

1re session
42e législature

Monday

November 26, 2018

Lundi

26 novembre 2018

10:30 A.M.

10 H 30

PRAYERS

PRIÈRES

ORAL QUESTIONS

QUESTIONS ORALES

The Speaker delivered the following ruling:-

Le Président a rendu la décision suivante :-

On November 26, 2018, the Member for Guelph (Mr. Schreiner) provided written notice of his intention to raise a question of privilege with respect to Bill 57, An Act to enact, amend and repeal various statutes. I am prepared to rule on this matter without hearing further from the member, as Standing Order 21(d) permits me to do.

I first want to address the matter of the timeliness of the Member’s question of privilege. It has been several days since Bill 57 received first reading on November 15, 2018. The House met on four sessional days over 10 calendar days following first reading of Bill 57. This points to a lack of timeliness in submitting the notice. As noted in Beauchesne’s Parliamentary Rules and Forms, 6th Edition, p. 29:

While I appreciate that the Member for Guelph had limited resources at his disposal, I want to stress to Members that it is very important that they not delay raising a question of privilege lest it be ruled out of order due to the passage of time.

The issue of timeliness aside, the Member’s question of privilege attempts to pre-empt the legislative processes of this House. The matter relates to the potential impact of the changes to the roles and status of certain Officers of Parliament proposed in Bill 57. The Member is asking the Speaker to determine if these proposed changes might amount to a form of obstruction, interference and intimidation of those Officers by the Government.

There is substantial precedent, and universal support, for the notion that the Speaker does not have the authority to engage in statutory interpretation. From a procedural perspective, Bill 57 is properly before the House at the present time, and it would be pre-emptive of the Speaker to determine whether there are any issues of the nature the Member raises when the House has not yet completed its consideration of, or made a decision on, the bill. Ultimately, it is for the House to decide if the proposed measures need to be amended in order to guarantee the independence of its Parliamentary Officers.

The Member has therefore not established a prima facie case of privilege.

The House recessed at 11:47 a.m.

À 11 h 47, la Chambre a suspendu la séance.

1:00 P.M.

13 H

MOTIONS

MOTIONS

Mr. Clark moved,

M. Clark propose,

That, pursuant to Standing Order 6(c)(i), the House shall meet from 6:45 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on Monday, November 26, 2018 for the purpose of considering government business.

Carried on the following division:-

Adoptée par le vote suivant :-

AYES / POUR - 62

Anand

Baber

Bailey

Barrett

Bethlenfalvy

Bouma

Calandra

Cho (Scarborough North)

Clark

Coe

Crawford

Cuzzeto

Downey

Dunlop

Elliott

Fedeli

Fee

Ghamari

Gill

Hardeman

Harris

Hogarth

Kanapathi

Karahalios

Khanjin

Kramp

Kusendova

Lecce

MacLeod

Martin

Martow

McDonell

McKenna

McNaughton

Miller (Parry Sound–Muskoka)

Nicholls

Oosterhoff

Pang

Park

Parsa

Pettapiece

Phillips

Piccini

Rasheed

Rickford

Roberts

Sabawy

Sandhu

Sarkaria

Skelly

Smith (Bay of Quinte)

Smith (Peterborough—Kawartha)

Surma

Tangri

Thanigasalam

Thompson

Tibollo

Triantafilopoulos

Wai

Walker

Yakabuski

Yurek

NAYS / CONTRE - 20

Andrew

Arthur

Begum

Bell

Berns-McGown

Bisson

Gélinas

Hassan

Hatfield

Mamakwa

Mantha

Monteith-Farrell

Morrison

Schreiner

Shaw

Singh (Brampton Centre)

Stiles

Taylor

Vanthof

West

Ms. Thompson moved,

Mme Thompson propose,

That, the schedule of the House for Wednesday, November 28, 2018 as set out in Standing Order 8(a), be revised by substituting “1:00 p.m.” and “1:05 p.m.” for “3:00 p.m.” and “3:05 p.m.,” respectively.

Debate arose and after some time,

Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps,

Carried on division.

Adoptée au vote.

PETITIONS

PÉTITIONS

Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada (Sessional Paper No. P-1) Mr. Hatfield and Ms. Morrison.

The price of gasoline (Sessional Paper No. P-34) Mr. Mantha.

Injured workers (Sessional Paper No. P-36) Mr. Hassan.

La Loi sur les foyers de soins de longue durée (document parlementaire no P-42) M. Mantha.

Health Sciences North (Sessional Paper No. P-46) Mme Gélinas and Mr. West.

Traffic control measures (Sessional Paper No. P-53) Mme Gélinas.

Horizon Santé-Nord (Sessional Paper No. P-61) Mr. Mantha.

Independent Officers of the Legislature (Sessional Paper No. P-70) Mr. Schreiner.

Hunting and trapping of the eastern hybrid wolf (Sessional Paper No. P-71) Mr. Bouma.

911 Emergency response coverage (Sessional Paper No. P-72) Mme Gélinas.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Second Reading of Bill 57, An Act to enact, amend and repeal various statutes.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 57, Loi édictant, modifiant et abrogeant diverses lois.

Debate resumed and after some time,

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps,

With unanimous consent,

Avec le consentement unanime,

Mr. Walker moved,

M. Walker propose,

That, notwithstanding the motion passed earlier today, that at 6:00 p.m. today, the House shall stand adjourned until 9:00 a.m. on November 27, 2018.

Carried.

Adoptée.

Debate resumed, during which the Acting Speaker (Mrs. Gretzky) interrupted the proceedings and announced that there had been more than six and one-half hours of debate and that the debate would be deemed adjourned.

Le débat a repris. La présidente suppléante (Mme Gretzky) a interrompu les travaux et a annoncé qu’il y avait eu plus de six heures et demie de débat et que le débat est réputé ajourné.

The Minister of Government and Consumer Services directed that the debate should continue.

Le ministre des Services gouvernementaux et des Services aux consommateurs a indiqué que le débat devrait se poursuivre.

Debate resumed and after some time the House adjourned at 5:57 p.m.

Le débat a repris et après quelque temps, à 17 h 57, la Chambre a ajourné ses travaux.

le président

Ted Arnott

Speaker

PETITIONS TABLED PURSUANT TO
STANDING ORDER 39(a)

PÉTITIONS DÉPOSÉES CONFORMÉMENT À L’ARTICLE
39 a) DU RÈGLEMENT

Implementing minimum wage (Sessional Paper No. P-4) (Tabled November 26, 2018) Mr. West.

RESPONSES TO PETITIONS

RÉPONSES AUX PÉTITIONS

Traffic control measures (Sessional Paper No. P-53):

(Tabled October 2, 2018) Mme Gélinas.