37th Parliament, 2nd Session

No. 33

No 33

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée législative
de l'Ontario

Wednesday
June 20, 2001


Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 47
Evening Meeting - Sessional Day 48

Mercredi
20 juin 2001


Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 47
Séance du soir - jour de session 48

2nd Session,
37th Parliament

2e session
37e législature

Prayers
1:30 P.M.

Prières
13 H 30

Reports by Committees

Rapports des Comités

The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-

I beg to inform the House that today the Clerk received the Eighth Report / huitième rapport of the Standing Committee on Government Agencies. Pursuant to Standing Order 106(e), the Report is deemed to be adopted by the House (Sessional Paper No. 65).

Mr. Barrett from the Standing Committee on Justice and Social Policy presented the Committee's report which was read as follows and adopted:-

M. Barrett du Comité permanent de la justice et des affaires sociales présente le rapport du comité qui est lu comme suit et adopté:-

Your Committee begs to report the following Bill as amended:-

Votre comité propose qu'il soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant avec des amendements:-

Bill 58, An Act to ensure the provision of essential ambulance services in the event of a strike or lock-out of ambulance workers.

Projet de loi 58, Loi visant à assurer la fourniture des services d'ambulance essentiels dan l'éventualité d'une grève ou d'un lock-out de préposés aux services d'ambulance.

Pursuant to the Order of the House of June 13, 2001, the Bill was Ordered for Third Reading.

Conformément à l'ordre adopté par l'Assemblée le 13 juin 2001, ce projet de loi est ordonné pour la troisième lecture.

Mr. Dunlop from the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills presented the Committee's Report which was read as follows and adopted:-

M. Dunlop du Comité permanent des règlements et des projets de loi d'intérêt privé présente le rapport du comité qui est lu comme suit et adopté:-

Your Committee begs to report the following Bills without amendment:-

Votre comité propose qu'il soit permis de faire rapport sur les projets de loi suivants sans amendement:-

Bill Pr8, An Act to revive 1072550 Ontario Limited

Bill Pr11, An Act to amend The Welland-Port Colborne Airport Act, 1976

Bill Pr14, An Act to revive 1150982 Ontario Inc.

Bill Pr16, An Act to revive 1252563 Ontario Limited

Bill Pr17, An Act to revive RDP Computer Consulting Inc.

Bill Pr19, An Act to revive 569924 Ontario Limited

The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-

The Member for Whitby-Ajax (Honourable Mr. Flaherty) has provided me with written notice of a point of privilege, as required by Standing Order 21(c). I would like to thank the Minister for giving me sufficient time to carefully review this matter.

I wish to advise that I will be deciding on this matter without further hearing directly from the Member at this time, as Standing Order 21(d) permits me to do.

The Member's point relates to press reports concerning the vandalism that occurred last week at his Whitby constituency office, and specifically to quotes in those press reports attributed to the Leader of the Official Opposition.

I think the Minister will know, and I will now remind him and the House, that comments made outside of this place by other Members lie outside of the purview of the Speaker. The rules of debate as set out in the Standing Orders do not apply beyond proceedings in parliament and, while the Member may take strong exception to something said, this would constitute a personal disagreement but not a valid case of privilege.

Finally, I note that the Minister's written notice to me also indirectly refers to the incident itself which occurred at his office last week, and I know the Minister will be aware that this issue was raised in a point of privilege by the Member for Oak Ridges (Honourable Mr. Klees). I am currently considering that matter and will be reporting back to the House in due course.

Introduction of Bills

Dépôt des Projets de Loi

The following Bills were introduced and read the first time:-

Les projets de loi suivants sont présentés et lus une première fois:-

Bill 84, An Act to provide for the closure of the Keele Valley waste disposal site and to amend the Waste Management Act, 1992. Mr. McGuinty.

Projet de loi 84, Loi prévoyant la fermeture du lieu d'élimination des déchets de Keele Valley et modifiant la Loi de 1992 sur la gestion des déchets. M. McGuinty.

Bill 85, An Act to minimize the use of restraints on patients in hospitals and on patients of facilities. Ms. Lankin.

Projet de loi 85, Loi visant à réduire au minimum l'utilisation des moyens de contention sur les malades des hôpitaux et des établissements. Mme Lankin.

Petitions

Pétitions

Petition relating to Northern Health Travel Grant program / Programme de subventions accordées aux résidents du nord de l'Ontario (Sessional Paper No. P-1) Ms. Martel.

Petition relating to The Nanticoke Generating Station (Sessional Paper No. P-26) Mr. Bradley.

Petition relating to Shortage of Nursing staff in Ontario (Sessional Paper No. P-61) Mrs. McLeod.

Petitions relating to Passing the Budget Bill giving tax credits to parents whose children attend independent schools (Sessional Paper No. P-62) Mrs. Mushinski, Mr. Spina and Mr. Wettlaufer.

Petition relating to Voucher plans for private schools (Sessional Paper No. P-64) Ms. Martel.

Petitions relating to Rising prices for Home Care services purchased by Community Care Access Centres (Sessional Paper No. P-72) Mr. Bartolucci, Ms. Martel and Mr. Ramsay.

Orders of the Day

Ordre du Jour

Mr. Newman moved,

M. Newman propose,

That, pursuant to Standing Order 46 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 57, An Act to promote government efficiency and to improve services to taxpayers by amending or repealing certain Acts, when Bill 57 is next called as a government order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill without further debate or amendment, and at such time the bill shall be referred to the Standing Committee on General Government;

That pursuant to standing order 28(h) the vote on second reading of the bill may be deferred until the next Sessional day during the Routine Proceeding, "Deferred Votes";

That, the Standing Committee on General Government shall be authorized to meet on the morning of Wednesday, June 27, 2001 in addition to its regularly scheduled meeting times on Wednesday, June 27, 2001, but not during Routine Proceedings, for clause-by-clause consideration of the bill; and

That the Committee shall further be authorized to meet beyond its normal hour of adjournment on June 27 until the completion of clause-by-clause consideration; and

That all proposed amendments shall be tabled with the Clerk of the Committee by 9:00 a.m. on Wednesday, June 27, 2001; and

At 4:30 p.m. on that day, those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the bill and any amendments thereto. Any divisions required shall be deferred until all remaining questions have been put and taken in succession with one 20-minute waiting period allowed pursuant to Standing Order 127(a);

That, the Committee shall report the bill to the House not later than Thursday, June 28, 2001. In the event that the Committee fails to report the bill on the date provided, the bill shall be deemed to have been passed by the Committee and shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House;

That, upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on General Government, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, and at such time the bill shall be ordered for third reading;

That the Order for third reading may be called on the same day the Bill is reported from committee and at such time the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the third reading stage of the bill without further debate or amendment;

That no deferral of the third reading vote pursuant to Standing Order 28(h) shall be permitted; and

That, in the case of any division relating to any proceeding on the bill, the division bell shall be limited to 5 minutes.

A debate arising, after some time, the motion was carried on the following division:-

Un débat s'ensuit et après quelque temps, la motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 46

Arnott

Baird

Barrett

Beaubien

Chudleigh

Clark

Coburn

Cunningham

DeFaria

Dunlop

Ecker

Elliott

Flaherty

Galt

Gilchrist

Gill

Guzzo

Hardeman

Hodgson

Hudak

Jackson

Johns

Kells

Marland

Martiniuk

Maves

Mazzilli

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Mushinski

Newman

O'Toole

Ouellette

Runciman

Sampson

Snobelen

Spina

Stewart

Stockwell

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wettlaufer

Wilson

Wood

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 30

Agostino

Bisson

Boyer

Bradley

Bryant

Caplan

Christopherson

Churley

Colle

Conway

Crozier

Curling

Duncan

Gerretsen

Hoy

Kennedy

Kormos

Kwinter

Lalonde

Lankin

Levac

Marchese

Martel

McGuinty

Patten

Phillips

Pupatello

Ramsay

Ruprecht

Smitherman

The House then adjourned at 6:00 p.m.

À 18 h, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

6:45 P.M.

18 H 45

Orders of the Day

Ordre du Jour

Debate was resumed on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 82, An Act to amend the Legislative Assembly Act to provide an arm's length process to determine members' compensation.

Le débat reprend sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 82, Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'Assemblée législative pour établir un processus sans lien de dépendance permettant de fixer la rétribution des députés.

After some time, the question having been put, the Acting Speaker (Mr. Christopherson) put the question, and declared his opinion that the Nays had it, and a recorded vote having been demanded,

Après quelque temps, la motion mise aux voix, le président par intérim, M. Christopherson met la motion aux voix, et déclare qu'à son avis les voix contres l'emportent et un vote par appel nominal a été demandé,

The Acting Speaker directed that the Members be called in, for which purpose the division bells were rung.

Le président par intérim donne des directives pour convoquer les députés et la sonnerie d'appel se fait entendre.

During the ringing of the bells, the Acting Speaker addressed the House as follows:-

Pendant la sonnerie d'appel, le président par intérim s'adresse à l'Assemblée en ces mots:-

I have received a request from the Chief Government Whip, under Standing Order 28(h), that the vote on the motion for Second Reading Bill 82, An Act to amend the Legislative Assembly Act to provide an arm's length process to determine members' compensation be deferred until June 21, 2001.

J'ai reçu une requête du Whip en chef du gouvernement, conformément à l'article 28(h) du Règlement, que le vote sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 82, Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'Assemblée législative pour établir un processus sans lien de dépendance permettant de fixer la rétribution des députés soit différé jusqu'au 21 juin 2001.

Therefore the vote is accordingly deferred.

En conséquence, le vote est différé.

Debate was resumed on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 19, An Act to amend the Ministry of Training, Colleges and Universities Act.

Le débat reprend sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 19, Loi modifiant la Loi sur le ministère de la Formation et des Collèges et Universités.

After some time, Ms. Churley moved the adjournment of the House, which motion was lost on the following division:-

Après quelque temps, Mme Churley propose l'ajournement des débats de l'Assemblée et cette motion est rejetée par le vote suivant:-

Ayes - 0 Nays - 31

Pour - 0 Contre - 31

The debate continued and, after some time, pursuant to Standing Order 9(a), the motion for the adjournment of the debate was deemed to have been made and carried.

Le débat se poursuit et après quelque temps, conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir été proposée et adoptée.

The House then adjourned at 9:30 p.m.

À 21 h 30, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

le président

GARY CARR

Speaker

Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 39(A):-

Documents Parlementaires Déposés Conformément à l'Article 39(A) du Règlement

Ontario Government Business Plans 2001-2002 as well as the 2000-2001 Annual Report for each of the following ministries: Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs; Attorney General; Citizenship; Community and Social Services and Children's Secretariat; Consumer and Business Services; Correctional Services; Economic Development and Trade; Education; Energy, Science and Technology; Environment; Finance; Francophone Affairs; Health and Long Term Care; Intergovernmental Affairs; Labour; Management Board Secretariat; Municipal Affairs and Housing; Natural Resources; Northern Development and Mines; Ontario Native Affairs Secretariat; Solicitor General; Tourism, Culture and Recreation; Training, Colleges and Universities; Transportation (No. 66) (Tabled June 20, 2000).