37th Parliament, 2nd Session

No. 25

No 25

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée législative
de l'Ontario

Wednesday
June 6, 2001


Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 34

Mercredi
6 juin 2001


Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 34

2nd Session,
37th Parliament

2e session
37e législature

Prayers
1:30 P.M.

Prières
13 H 30

Mr. Tsubouchi delivered to the Speaker a message from Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor signed by her own hand, and the said message was read by the Speaker and is as follows:-

hilary m. weston

The Lieutenant Governor transmits Estimates of certain sums required for the services of the Province for the year ending 31st March 2002 and recommends them to the Legislative Assembly.

La lieutenante-gouverneure transmet les prévisions de certains montants nécessaires pour assurer les services de la province pour l'exercice se terminant le 31 mars 2002 et les recommande à l'Assemblée législative.

Toronto, 5th June 2001

Toronto, le 5 juin 2001

(Sessional Paper No. 3, Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs; Attorney General; Cabinet Office; Citizenship; Community and Social Services; Consumer and Business Services; Correctional Services; Economic Development and Trade; Education; Energy, Science and Technology; Environment; Finance; Office of Francophone Affairs; Health and Long Term Care; Intergovernmental Affairs; Labour; Office of the Lieutenant Governor; Management Board Secretariat; Municipal Affairs and Housing; Ontario Native Affairs Secretariat; Natural Resources; Northern Development and Mines; Office of the Premier; Solicitor General; Tourism, Culture and Recreation; Training, Colleges and Universities; Transportation).

(Document parlementaire no 3, Agriculture, Alimentation et Affaires rurales; Procureur général; Bureau du Conseil des ministres; Affaires civiques; Services sociaux et communautaires; Services aux consommateurs et aux entreprises; Services correctionnels; Développement économique et Commerce; Éducation; Énergie, Sciences et Technologie; Environnement; Finances; Office des affaires francophones; Santé et soins de longue durée; Affaires intergouvernementales; Travail; Bureau du lieutenant-gouverneur; Secrétariat du Conseil de gestion; Affaires municipales et Logement; Secrétariat des affaires autochtones de l'Ontario; Richesses naturelles; Développement du Nord et des Mines; Cabinet du Premier ministre; Solliciteur général; Tourisme, Culture et Loisirs; Formation, Collèges et Universités; Transports).

Ordered, That the message of the Lieutenant Governor together with the Estimates accompanying same be deemed to be referred to the Standing Committee on Estimates pursuant to Standing Order 58.

On a point of privilege being raised by the Member for Kingston and the Islands relating to the consideration and approval by the Board of Internal Economy of the Estimates of the Office of the Provincial Auditor, the Speaker delivered the following ruling:-

I thank the Member. What he does point out deals with notice provisions in the Audit Act for Board of Internal Economy meetings at which the Estimates of the Provincial Auditor are considered. The issue the Member raises is one of legal interpretation and it is not a matter of privilege. I would be happy to speak to the Member privately about it.

For clarification, what section 29(3) of the Audit Act says is that the Chair and the Vice-Chair "shall be"

notified of such meetings of the Board of Internal Economy. I have a letter dated May 17 to both the Chair and the Vice-Chair advising you _the Chair_ of this from the Auditor, copied to me. It goes on to say "...the Chair and the Vice-Chair may attend at the Board's review of my office's Estimates ," the operative word being "may".

In fact, it was not a separate meeting that was held that night; it was the same Board of Internal Economy meeting that was adjourned for a vote in the House, and then came back and finished up. So there was not a new meeting, it was a continuation interrupted by a vote in the House of the same meeting, and all the Members of the Board of Internal Economy who were there will know that.

He does raise some valid points and I would certainly be pleased to meet with him and the Members of the Board to discuss the issue further. I do thank him for bringing it to my attention.

Reports by Committees

Rapports des Comités

Ms. Lankin from the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills presented the Committee's Report which was read as follows and adopted:-

Mme Lankin du Comité permanent des règlements et des projets de loi d'intérêt privé présente le rapport du comité qui est lu comme suit et adopté:-

Your Committee begs to report the following Bill as amended:-

Votre comité propose qu'il soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant avec des amendements:-

Bill Pr4, An Act respecting the City of Elliot Lake.

The Speaker addressed the House as follows:-

I beg to inform the House that today the Clerk received the Sixth Report / sixième rapport of the Standing Committee on Government Agencies. Pursuant to Standing Order 106(e), the Report is deemed to be adopted by the House (Sessional Paper No. 49).

Introduction of Bills

Dépôt des Projets de Loi

The following Bills were introduced and read the first time:-

Les projets de loi suivants sont présentés et lus une première fois:-

Bill 76, An Act to ensure fairness, to foster competition and consumer choice and to encourage innovation in the farm implement sector. Mr. Barrett.

Projet de loi 76, Loi visant à assurer l'équité, à favoriser la concurrence et le choix des consommateurs et à encourager l'innovation en matière d'appareils agricoles. M. Barrett.

Bill 77, An Act to amend the Vital Statistics Act and the Child and Family Services Act in respect of Adoption Disclosure. Ms. Churley.

Projet de loi 77, Loi modifiant la Loi sur les statistiques de l'état civil et la Loi sur les services à l'enfance et à la famille en ce qui concerne la divulgation de renseignements sur les adoptions. Mme Churley.

During "Oral Questions", the Speaker requested the Member for Simcoe North (Mr. Dunlop) to come to order.

Pendant la période des «Questions orales», le Président demande au député de Simcoe-Nord, M. Dunlop de se comporter.

The Member having refused was named by the Speaker and directed to withdraw from the service of the House for the balance of the sessional day.

Comme le député refuse d'obéir, le Président le désigne par son nom et l'ordonne de se retirer du service de l'Assemblée pour le reste du jour de session.

Petitions

Pétitions

Petition relating to the Sithe project (Sessional Paper No. P-58) Mrs. Marland.

Petitions relating to Shortage of Nursing staff in Ontario (Sessional Paper No. P-61) Mr. Bradley, Mrs. Dombrowsky and Mrs. McLeod.

Petitions relating to Passing the Budget Bill giving tax credits to parents whose children attend independent schools (Sessional Paper No. P-62) Mr. Spina, Mr. Tascona, Mr. Wettlaufer and Mr. Wood.

Petitions relating to Voucher plans for private schools (Sessional Paper No. P-64) Mr. Gravelle, Ms. Martel and Mr. Parsons.

Petition relating to Replacement of the single lane Bailey bridge by a two-lane bridge (Sessional Paper No. P-71) Mr. Brown.

Orders of the Day

Ordre du Jour

The Order of the Day for resuming the adjourned debate on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 25, An Act to amend the Public Service Act and Crown Employees Collective Bargaining Act, 1993 having been read,

À l'appel de l'ordre du jour concernant la suite du débat ajourné sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 25, Loi modifiant la Loi sur la fonction publique et la Loi de 1993 sur la négociation collective des employés de la Couronne,

In accordance with the Order of the House passed on May 30, 2001, the Speaker put the question forthwith on the motion which question was carried on the following division:-

Le Président met la motion aux voix immédiatement, conformément à l'ordre adopté par l'Assemblée le 30 mai 2001, et cette motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 48

Arnott

Baird

Beaubien

Clark

Coburn

Cunningham

DeFaria

Ecker

Elliott

Flaherty

Galt

Gilchrist

Gill

Guzzo

Hardeman

Harris

Hastings

Hudak

Jackson

Johns

Kells

Klees

Marland

Martiniuk

Maves

Mazzilli

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Murdoch

Mushinski

Newman

Ouellette

Runciman

Sampson

Snobelen

Spina

Sterling

Stewart

Stockwell

Tascona

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wettlaufer

Wilson

Witmer

Wood

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 36

Agostino

Bartolucci

Boyer

Bradley

Brown

Caplan

Churley

Cleary

Colle

Crozier

Di Cocco

Dombrowsky

Duncan

Gerretsen

Gravelle

Hampton

Hoy

Kennedy

Kormos

Kwinter

Lalonde

Lankin

Levac

Marchese

Martel

Martin

McGuinty

McLeod

McMeekin

Parsons

Peters

Phillips

Pupatello

Ramsay

Ruprecht

Smitherman

And the Bill was accordingly read the second time and Ordered referred to the Standing Committee on General Government.

En conséquence, ce projet de loi est lu une deuxième fois et déféré au Comité permanent des affaires gouvernementales.

The Order of the Day for resuming the adjourned debate on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 45, An Act to implement measures contained in the 2001 Budget and to amend various statutes having been read,

À l'appel de l'ordre du jour concernant la suite du débat ajourné sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 45, Loi mettant en oeuvre des mesures mentionnées dans le budget de 2001 et modifiant diverses lois,

In accordance with the Order of the House passed on June 4, 2001, the Speaker put the question forthwith on the motion which question was carried on the following division:-

Le Président met la motion aux voix immédiatement, conformément à l'ordre adopté par l'Assemblée le 4 juin 2001, et cette motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 48

Arnott

Baird

Beaubien

Clark

Coburn

Cunningham

DeFaria

Ecker

Elliott

Flaherty

Galt

Gilchrist

Gill

Guzzo

Hardeman

Harris

Hastings

Hudak

Jackson

Johns

Kells

Klees

Marland

Martiniuk

Maves

Mazzilli

Miller

Molinari

Munro

Murdoch

Mushinski

Newman

Ouellette

Runciman

Sampson

Snobelen

Spina

Sterling

Stewart

Stockwell

Tascona

Tsubouchi

Turnbull

Wettlaufer

Wilson

Witmer

Wood

Young

NAYS / CONTRE - 37

Agostino

Bartolucci

Boyer

Bradley

Brown

Caplan

Churley

Cleary

Colle

Crozier

Curling

Di Cocco

Dombrowsky

Duncan

Gerretsen

Gravelle

Hampton

Hoy

Kennedy

Kormos

Kwinter

Lalonde

Lankin

Levac

Marchese

Martel

Martin

McGuinty

McLeod

McMeekin

Parsons

Peters

Phillips

Pupatello

Ramsay

Ruprecht

Smitherman

And the Bill was accordingly read the second time and Ordered referred to the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs.

En conséquence, ce projet de loi est lu une deuxième fois et déféré au Comité permanent des finances et des affaires économiques.

A debate arose on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 58, An Act to ensure the provision of essential ambulance services in the event of a strike or lock-out of ambulance workers.

Il s'élève un débat sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 58, Loi visant à assurer la fourniture des services d'ambulance essentiels dans l'éventualité d'une grève ou d'un lock-out de préposés aux services d'ambulance.

After some time, pursuant to Standing Order 9(a), the motion for the adjournment of the debate was deemed to have been made and carried.

Après quelque temps, conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir été proposée et adoptée.

The House then adjourned at 6:00 p.m.

À 18 h, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

le président

GARY CARR

Speaker

Petition Tabled Pursuant to Standing Order 38 (A)

Petition relating to Trails taken over by snowmobile clubs (Sessional Paper No. P-69) (Tabled June 6, 2001) Mr. Hampton.