37th Parliament, 1st Session

No. 58

No 58

Votes and Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly
of Ontario

Assemblée législative
de l'Ontario

Monday
May 15, 2000

Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 85
Evening Meeting - Sessional Day 86

Lundi
15 mai 2000

Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 85
Séance du soir - jour de session 86

1st Session,
37th Parliament

1re session
37e législature

Prayers
1:30 P.M.

Prières
13 H 30

Introduction of Bills

Dépôt des Projets de Loi

The following Bill was introduced and read the first time:-

Le projet de loi suivant est présenté et lu une première fois:-

Bill 76, An Act to amend the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Act, 1997 in respect of double-crested cormorants. Mr. Brown.

Projet de loi 76, Loi modifiant la Loi de 1997 sur la protection du poisson et de la faune à l'égard du cormoran à aigrettes. M. Brown.

Motions

Motions

On motion by Mr. Sterling,

Sur la motion de M. Sterling,

Ordered, That, pursuant to Standing Order 9(c)(i), the House shall meet from 6:45 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. on Monday, May 15, Tuesday, May 16, and Wednesday, May 17, 2000 for the purpose of considering government business.

On motion by Mr. Sterling,

Sur la motion de M. Sterling,

Ordered, That notwithstanding Standing Order 96(d), the following change be made to the ballot list for private member's public business;

Mr. Bryant, Mr. Cordiano and Mr. Brown exchange places in order of precedence such that Mr. Bryant assumes ballot number 33, Mr. Cordiano assumes ballot number 36, and Mr. Brown assumes ballot item 69; and

Mr. Patten and Mme Boyer exchange places in order of precedence such that Mr. Patten assumes ballot item number 54 and Mme Boyer assumes ballot item number 29.

Petitions

Pétitions

Petition relating to Upgrading Highway 401 and investing federal gasoline tax revenue in Ontario road improvements (Sessional Paper No. P-9) Mr. Hoy.

Petition relating to Support of a two-county model for Norfolk and Haldimand counties (Sessional Paper No. P-30) Mr. Barrett.

Petition relating to the Government of Ontario ensuring that Karla Homolka serves her full sentence in prison (Sessional Paper No. P-38) Mr. Gill.

Petitions relating to Restructuring of Developmental Services and services to the developmentally disabled (Sessional Paper No. P-42) Mr. Kells, Ms. Lankin and Mr. O'Toole.

Petition relating to Conducting an administrative audit and mediating a solution to construct new school buildings Simcoe (Sessional Paper No. P-46) Mr. Barrett.

Petition relating to Lowering provincial taxes on petroleum products / Pétition concernant les taxes provinciales sur le prix des produits pétroliers. (Sessional Paper No. P-61) Mr. Lalonde.

Petition relating to Maintaining the Lord's Prayer in the Parliament of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. P-76) Mr. Tascona.

Petition relating to Holding public hearings on Bills 23 and 173 (Sessional Paper No. P-85) Mr. Parsons.

Petition relating to Rescinding the law banning studded tires in Ontario (Sessional Paper No. P-94) Mr. Bartolucci.

Petitions relating to Further exemption of Highway 407 from provincial environmental laws (Sessional Paper No. P-100) Mr. Bradley and Mr. O'Toole.

Petition relating to the Township of Nakina (Sessional Paper No. P-101) Mr. Gravelle.

Petition relating to the Closure of the Kinsmen/J.S. MacDonald school (Sessional Paper No. P-103) Mr. Cleary.

Orders of the Day

Ordre du Jour

Mr. Klees moved,

M. Klees propose,

That pursuant to Standing Order 46 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 72, An Act to pay a dividend to Ontario taxpayers, cut taxes, create jobs and implement the Budget, when Bill 72 is next called as a government Order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill without further debate or amendment, and at such time, the bill shall be ordered to the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs; and

That no deferral of the second reading vote pursuant to Standing Order 28(h) shall be permitted; and

That, at 4:30 p.m. on the final day designated by the Committee for clause-by-clause consideration of the bill and not later than June 8, 2000, those amendments which have not been moved shall be deemed to have been moved, and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the bill, and any amendments thereto. Any division required shall be deferred until all remaining questions have been put and taken in succession with one 20-minute waiting period allowed pursuant to Standing Order 127(a); and

That the Committee shall report the bill to the House not later than the first Sessional day that reports from Committees may be received following the completion of clause-by-clause consideration, and not later than June 12, 2000. In the event that the committee fails to report the bill on the date provided, the bill shall be deemed to have been passed by the Committee and shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House;

That upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, and at such time the bill shall be ordered for third reading;

That, when the Order for Third Reading is called, the remainder of the sessional day shall be allotted to the Third Reading stage of the bill. At the end of such time, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or amendment;

That, the vote on third reading may, pursuant to Standing Order 28(h), be deferred until the next Sessional day during the Routine Proceedings "Deferred Votes"; and

That, in the case of any division relating to any proceedings on the bill, the division bell shall be limited to five minutes.

A debate arising, after some time, the motion was carried on the following division:-

Un débat s'ensuit et après quelque temps, la motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 49

Arnott

Hardeman

Palladini

Baird

Hastings

Runciman

Barrett

Hodgson

Sampson

Beaubien

Jackson

Spina

Chudleigh

Johns

Sterling

Clark

Johnson

Stewart

Clement

Kells

Stockwell

Coburn

Klees

Tascona

AYES / POUR - Continued

DeFaria

Marland

Tilson

Dunlop

Martiniuk

Tsubouchi

Ecker

Maves

Turnbull

Elliott

Mazzilli

Wettlaufer

Flaherty

Munro

Wilson

Galt

Mushinski

Wood

Gilchrist

Newman

Young

Gill

O'Toole

Guzzo

Ouellette

NAYS / CONTRE - 21

Bartolucci

Crozier

Lalonde

Bisson

Dombrowsky

Lankin

Bountrogianni

Gerretsen

Marchese

Boyer

Gravelle

Parsons

Bradley

Hoy

Patten

Churley

Kennedy

Peters

Conway

Kormos

Sergio

The House then adjourned at 6:05 p.m.

À 18 h 05, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

6:45 P.M.

18 H 45

Orders of the Day

Ordre du Jour

Mr. Klees moved,

M. Klees propose,

That the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario,

(a) condemns the weakness of the current federal Young Offenders Act, and urges that it be scrapped and replaced with a tough new law that holds young criminals accountable for their actions;

(b) rejects the changes proposed by federal Bill C-3 because they do not go far enough to address the concerns of law-abiding citizens, but merely repackage the flawed, weak Young Offenders Act under a new name;

(c) further rejects any proposed amendments to Bill C-3 that would weaken and soften legislation that is already inadequate;

(d) particularly condemns the federal government's attempt, through its legislation, to shorten some jail sentences for crimes committed by young offenders;

(e) believes the 16- and 17-year-old persons charged with serious, adult-type offences should automatically be tried as adults; and

(f) believes that young people convicted of violent, adult-type crimes should be subject to adult-length sentences.

A debate arising and after some time,

Un débat s'ensuit et après quelque temps,

Mr. Bryant moved the following Amendment to the motion: "That the Attorney General's resolution be amended by deleting parts (a), (b), (c), (d), (e) and (f) and substituting the following sections:

(a) Condemns the Harris Government for its jurisdictional deflection, grandstanding and complete failure to accept responsibility for youth crime in the Province of Ontario;

(b) Regrets the posturing of this Government as to the Young Offenders Act and urges review of its own prosecution record of transferring youth to adult court only nine times in 1998, compared to 23 such transfers in each of Manitoba and Quebec;

(c) Urges the Harris Government to improve their dismal record on crime prevention;

(d) Demands the Harris Government to take action to halt Ontario's gun epidemic, which is fuelling much of youth crime, by supporting the Official Opposition's numerous private members' bills seeking to restore the safety of Ontario's streets;

(e) Resolves that it is time for all governments to stop fighting over crime and start fighting crime itself."

The debate continued and, after some time,

Le débat se poursuit et après quelque temps,

Pursuant to Standing Order 9(a), the motion for the adjournment of the debate was deemed to have been made and carried.

Conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir été proposée et adoptée.

The House then adjourned at 9:30 p.m.

À 21 h 30, la chambre a ensuite ajourné ses travaux.

le président

GARY CARR

Speaker

Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 39(A):-

Documents Parlementaires Déposés Conformément à l'Article 39(A) du Règlement

Part-time appointments re intended Order-in-Council dated May 10, 2000 (No. 114) (Tabled May 12, 2000).

Responses to Petitions

Réponses aux Pétitions

Petition relating to the Introduction of predatory gas pricing legislation (Sessional Paper No. P-24):

(Tabled April 6, 2000) Mr. Peters.

Petitions relating to the Government of Ontario ensuring that Karla Homolka serves her full sentence in prison (Sessional Paper No. P-38):

(Tabled April 4, 11, 12, 2000) Mr. O'Toole.

(Tabled April 6, 10, 12, 13, 2000) Mrs. Mushinski.

(Tabled April 12, 2000) Mr. Hastings.

Petition relating to Protecting minors from exposure to sexually explicit material (Sessional Paper No. P-70):

(Tabled April 6, 2000) Mr. O'Toole.