36th Parliament, 1st Session

No. 153 No 153

Votes and

Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly

of Ontario

Assemblée législative

de l'Ontario

1st Session,

36th Parliament

1re session,

36e législature

Wednesday,

January 29, 1997

Mercredi

29 janvier 1997

PRAYERS

1:30 P.M.

PRIÈRES

13 H 30

PETITIONS

PÉTITIONS

Petition relating to North York Branson Hospital (Sessional Paper No. P-15) (Tabled January 29, 1997) Mr M. Kwinter.

Petition relating to User Fees on Prescription Medicine (Sessional Paper No. P-44) (Tabled January 29, 1997) Mr T. Ruprecht.

Petition relating to Workers Health and Safety Centre and Occupational Health Clinics (Sessional Paper No. P-118) (Tabled January 29, 1997) Mr D. Christopherson.

Petition relating to Not altering the Occupational Health and Safety Act or eroding the rights of workers (Sessional Paper No. P-162) (Tabled January 29, 1997) Mr D. Christopherson.

Petition relating to Delaying the reform of secondary school education (Sessional Paper No. P-207) (Tabled January 29, 1997) Mr R. Patten.

INTRODUCTION OF BILLS

DÉPÔT DES PROJETS DE LOI

The following Bills were introduced and read the first time:-

Les projets de loi suivants sont présentés et lus une première fois:-

Bill 111, An Act to amend the Mental Health Act. Mr R. Patten.

Projet de loi 111, Loi modifiant la Loi sur la santé mentale. M. R. Patten.

Bill 112, An Act to observe two minutes of silence on Remembrance Day. Mr M. Kells.

Projet de loi 112, Loi visant l'observation de deux minutes de silence le jour du Souvenir. M. M. Kells.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Mr Johnson (Don Mills) moved,

M. Johnson (Don Mills) propose,

That, pursuant to Standing Order 46 or Special Order of the House and notwithstanding any other Standing Order of the House relating to Bill 103, An Act to replace the seven existing municipal governments of Metropolitan Toronto by incorporating a new municipality to be known as the City of Toronto, when Bill 103 is next called as a government order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill without further debate or amendment, and at such time the bill shall be referred to the Standing Committee on General Government;

That, the Standing Committee on General Government shall be authorized to meet to consider the bill on the following days:

On Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays during the weeks of February 3, 1997, February 10, 1997, February 17, 1997, February 24, 1997, and on Monday, March 3, 1997, and Wednesday, March 5, 1997, and that the committee be authorized to meet from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m., 3:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m., and 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m., on such days to receive public submissions on the bill;

That, the Standing Committee on General Government shall be authorized to meet to consider the bill for clause-by-clause consideration commencing Thursday, March 6, 1997 from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. and from 3:30 p.m. until completion of clause-by-clause.

All proposed amendments shall be filed with the Clerk of the Committee by 7:00 p.m. on March 5, 1997. At 5:00 p.m. on Thursday, March 6, 1997, those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the bill and any amendments thereto. Any divisions required shall be deferred until all remaining questions have been put and taken in succession with one 20 minute waiting period allowed pursuant to Standing Order 128(a);

The Committee shall report the bill to the House on the first available day following completion of clause-by-clause consideration that reports from committees may be received. In the event that the Committee fails to report the bill on the date provided, the bill shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House;

That, upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on General Government, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, which question shall be decided without debate or amendment and at such time the bill shall be ordered for third reading;

That, one sessional day shall be allotted to the third reading stage of the bill. At 5:45 p.m. on such day, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or amendment;

That in the case of any division relating to any proceedings on the bill, the division bell shall be limited to 5 minutes and no deferral of any division pursuant to Standing Order 28 (g) shall be permitted.

Mr Johnson (Don Mills) then moved,

Ensuite, M. Johnson (Don Mills) propose,

That the motion be amended by deleting the words "or Special Order of the House and notwithstanding any other Standing Order of the House" in the first and second lines of the first paragraph, and inserting in lieu thereof "and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House"; and

That the motion be further amended by striking out the seventh, eighth and ninth paragraphs and inserting the following in lieu thereof:

That upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on General Government, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, which question shall be decided without debate or amendment; and the bill shall be referred to Committee of the Whole House;

That one hour shall be allotted to consideration of the bill in Committee of the Whole House. At the end of that time, those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved and the Chair of the Committee of the Whole House shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the bill and any amendments thereto and report the bill to the House. Any divisions required shall be deferred until all remaining questions have been put, the members called in once and all deferred divisions taken in succession. All amendments proposed to the bill shall be filed with the Clerk of the Assembly by 2:00 p.m. on the sessional day on which the bill is considered in Committee of the Whole House and that notwithstanding Standing Order 9 (a) the House be authorized to meet beyond its normal adjournment time until completion of the Committee of the Whole stage of Bill 103;

That upon receiving the report of the Committee of the Whole House, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, which question shall be decided without debate or amendment and at such time, the bill shall be ordered for third reading;

That one sessional day be allotted to the third reading stage of the bill. At the end of that sessional day, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or amendment.

That in the case of any divisions relating to any proceedings on the bill, the division bell shall be limited to five minutes and no deferral of any division pursuant to Standing Order 28(g) shall be permitted.

A debate arose and, after some time,

Mr Bradley moved that the amendment to the motion be further amended by adding the following:-

That, the Standing Committee on General Government shall be authorized to meet March 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, in order to travel to the affected municipalities and give proper consideration to the results of local referenda; and that the committee sit the number of days required to accommodate all requests for committee time; and that the committee be authorized to meet from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m., and 1:00 p.m. to 5:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m.; and that five additional sessional days be allotted for the second reading stage of the bill; and that four sessional days be allotted to the third reading stage of the bill.

The debate continued and, after some time, the question having been put on the amendment to the amendment to the motion was lost on the following division:-

AYES / POUR - 32

Bartolucci Curling Miclash

Bisson Duncan Morin

Boyd Grandmaître Patten

Bradley Hoy Phillips

Caplan Kennedy Pupatello

Churley Kormos Ramsay

Cleary Kwinter Ruprecht

Colle Lalonde Silipo

Conway Lankin Wildman

Cordiano Marchese Wood

Crozier McGuinty (Cochrane North)

NAYS / CONTRE - 57

Arnott Hastings Pettit

Baird Hudak Rollins

Barrett Johns Ross

Beaubien Johnson Runciman

Boushy (Don Mills) Sampson

Brown Johnson Shea

(Scarborough West) (Perth) Sheehan

Carroll Jordan Smith

Chudleigh Kells Sterling

Clement Klees Stewart

Danford Leach Tilson

DeFaria Leadston Tsubouchi

Doyle Marland Turnbull

Elliott Martiniuk Villeneuve

Eves McLean Wettlaufer

Fisher Munro Witmer

Fox Murdoch Wood

Froese Mushinski (London South)

Gilchrist Newman Young

Grimmett O'Toole

Guzzo Parker

The amendment to the motion was then carried on the following vote:-

AYES / POUR - 57

Arnott Hastings Pettit

Baird Hudak Rollins

Barrett Johns Ross

Beaubien Johnson Runciman

Boushy (Don Mills) Sampson

Brown Johnson Shea

(Scarborough West) (Perth) Sheehan

Carroll Jordan Smith

Chudleigh Kells Sterling

Clement Klees Stewart

Danford Leach Tilson

DeFaria Leadston Tsubouchi

Doyle Marland Turnbull

Elliott Martiniuk Villeneuve

Eves McLean Wettlaufer

Fisher Munro Witmer

Fox Murdoch Wood

Froese Mushinski (London South)

Gilchrist Newman Young

Grimmett O'Toole

Guzzo Parker

NAYS / CONTRE - 32

Bartolucci Curling Miclash

Bisson Duncan Morin

Boyd Grandmaître Patten

Bradley Hoy Phillips

Caplan Kennedy Pupatello

Churley Kormos Ramsay

Cleary Kwinter Ruprecht

Colle Lalonde Silipo

Conway Lankin Wildman

Cordiano Marchese Wood

Crozier McGuinty (Cochrane North)

The main motion as amended was carried on the following vote:-

AYES / POUR - 57

Arnott Hastings Pettit

Baird Hudak Rollins

Barrett Johns Ross

Beaubien Johnson Runciman

Boushy (Don Mills) Sampson

Brown Johnson Shea

(Scarborough West) (Perth) Sheehan

Carroll Jordan Smith

Chudleigh Kells Sterling

Clement Klees Stewart

Danford Leach Tilson

DeFaria Leadston Tsubouchi

Doyle Marland Turnbull

Elliott Martiniuk Villeneuve

Eves McLean Wettlaufer

Fisher Munro Witmer

Fox Murdoch Wood

Froese Mushinski (London South)

Gilchrist Newman Young

Grimmett O'Toole

Guzzo Parker

NAYS / CONTRE - 32

Bartolucci Curling Miclash

Bisson Duncan Morin

Boyd Grandmaître Patten

Bradley Hoy Phillips

Caplan Kennedy Pupatello

Churley Kormos Ramsay

Cleary Kwinter Ruprecht

Colle Lalonde Silipo

Conway Lankin Wildman

Cordiano Marchese Wood

Crozier McGuinty (Cochrane North)

And it was,

Ordered, That pursuant to Standing Order 46 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order of the House relating to Bill 103, An Act to replace the seven existing municipal governments of Metropolitan Toronto by incorporating a new municipality to be known as the City of Toronto, when Bill 103 is next called as a government order, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the bill without further debate or amendment, and at such time the bill shall be referred to the Standing Committee on General Government;

That, the Standing Committee on General Government shall be authorized to meet to consider the bill on the following days:

On Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays during the weeks of February 3, 1997, February 10, 1997, February 17, 1997, February 24, 1997, and on Monday, March 3, 1997, and Wednesday, March 5, 1997, and that the committee be authorized to meet from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m., 3:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m., and 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m., on such days to receive public submissions on the bill;

That, the Standing Committee on General Government shall be authorized to meet to consider the bill for clause-by-clause consideration commencing Thursday, March 6, 1997 from 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. and from 3:30 p.m. until completion of clause-by-clause.

All proposed amendments shall be filed with the Clerk of the Committee by 7:00 p.m. on March 5, 1997. At 5:00 p.m. on Thursday, March 6, 1997, those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved and the Chair of the Committee shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the bill and any amendments thereto. Any divisions required shall be deferred until all remaining questions have been put and taken in succession with one 20 minute waiting period allowed pursuant to Standing Order 128(a);

The Committee shall report the bill to the House on the first available day following completion of clause-by-clause consideration that reports from committees may be received. In the event that the Committee fails to report the bill on the date provided, the bill shall be deemed to be reported to and received by the House;

That upon receiving the report of the Standing Committee on General Government, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, which question shall be decided without debate or amendment; and the bill shall be referred to Committee of the Whole House;

That one hour shall be allotted to consideration of the bill in Committee of the Whole House. At the end of that time, those amendments which have not yet been moved shall be deemed to have been moved and the Chair of the Committee of the Whole House shall interrupt the proceedings and shall, without further debate or amendment, put every question necessary to dispose of all remaining sections of the bill and any amendments thereto and report the bill to the House. Any divisions required shall be deferred until all remaining questions have been put, the members called in once and all deferred divisions taken in succession. All amendments proposed to the bill shall be filed with the Clerk of the Assembly by 2:00 p.m. on the sessional day on which the bill is considered in Committee of the Whole House and that notwithstanding Standing Order 9 (a) the House be authorized to meet beyond its normal adjournment time until completion of the Committee of the Whole stage of Bill 103;

That upon receiving the report of the Committee of the Whole House, the Speaker shall put the question for adoption of the report forthwith, which question shall be decided without debate or amendment and at such time, the bill shall be ordered for third reading;

That one sessional day be allotted to the third reading stage of the bill. At the end of that sessional day, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and shall put every question necessary to dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or amendment.

That in the case of any divisions relating to any proceedings on the bill, the division bell shall be limited to five minutes and no deferral of any division pursuant to Standing Order 28(g) shall be permitted.

The House then adjourned

at 6:30 p.m.

À 18 h 30, la chambre a ensuite

ajourné ses travaux.

le président

Christopher M. Stockwell

Speaker

Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 39(c):-

Documents Parlementaires Déposés Conformément à l'article 39(c) du Règlement:-

Questions Answered (see Sessional Paper No. 5):-

Final Answer to Question Number: 772.

Interim Answers to Question Numbers: 773 and 774.

Responses to Petitions:-

Réponses aux Pétitions:-

Petition relating to User Fees on Prescription Medicine (Sessional Paper No. P-44):

(Tabled January 13, 1997) Mr T. Ruprecht.

Petitions relating to Solving the WCB's problems without attacking injured workers (Sessional Paper No. P-125):

(Tabled January 21, 1997) Mr D. Christopherson

(Tabled January 13, 1997) Mr F. Laughren.

(Tabled January 15, 21, 1997) Ms S. Martel.

Petitions relating to Not altering the Occupational Health and Safety Act or eroding the rights of workers (Sessional Paper No. P-162):

(Tabled January 21, 1997) Mr D. Christopherson.

(Tabled January 14, 1997) Mr T. Martin.

Petition relating to Restoring adequate funding to hospitals in the Niagara Region and guaranteeing no Niagara Peninsula hospital closures (Sessional Paper No. P-202):

(Tabled January 13, 1997) Mr J. Bradley.