36th Parliament, 1st Session

No. 21 No 21

Votes and

Proceedings

Procès-verbaux

Legislative Assembly

of Ontario

Assemblée législative

de l'Ontario

1st Session,

36th Parliament

1re session,

36e législature

Thursday,

November 2, 1995

Jeudi

2 novembre 1995

PRAYERS

10:00 A.M.

PRIÈRES

10 H

Mr Christopherson moved,

M. Christopherson propose,

Whereas it is important for the provincial government to work in partnership with communities across Ontario to provide the infrastructure and economic opportunities necessary for job creation, and

Whereas the previous New Democratic Government invested in the economic future of Hamilton by committing $5 million for the creation of a cultural industry strategy, and a further $5 million for the Revitalization of Barton Street; both of which would have created jobs and supported the expansion of Hamilton's important culture and arts industry, and

Whereas the saving and rehabilitation of the 71 year old landmark "Lister Block" building would have saved an important part of Hamilton's heritage, created jobs and injected much needed economic stimulation into our downtown core, and

Whereas Hamilton's McMaster University would have become the home to North America's first United Nations University for the Environment, with a $5 million dollar provincial investment matched by Federal funds, and

Whereas Hamilton was scheduled to receive more than 1,000 units of non-profit housing, which would have created jobs and provided affordable housing for Hamilton's most vulnerable citizens, and

Whereas these economic initiatives were identified as priorities by local government and the community itself,

Therefore be it resolved that the Progressive Conservative Government admit the serious damage it has caused to Hamilton's economic future by cancelling these critical economic initiatives and that full funding be restored immediately.

A debate arising, at 11:00 a.m., further proceedings were reserved until 12:00 noon.

À 11 heures, la suite du débat est réservé jusqu'à midi.

Mr Barrett then moved,

Ensuite, M. Barrett propose,

Second Reading of Bill 11, An Act to amend the Expropriations Act and the Human Rights Code with respect to property rights.

Deuxième lecture du projet de loi 11, Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'expropriation et le Code des droits de la personne relativement aux droits de propriété.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(e), no objection having been made to the putting of the question on Mr Christopherson's Resolution Number 3, the question having been put, was declared lost.

Conformément à l'article 96(e) du Règlement, la motion portant sur la résolution numéro 3 de M. Christopherson n'a pas fait l'objet d'opposition et la motion, mise aux voix, est declareé rejetée.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(e), no objection having been made to the putting of the question on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 11, An Act to amend the Expropriations Act and the Human Rights Code with respect to property rights the question having been put, was declared carried and the Bill was accordingly read the second time and Ordered referred to Standing Committee on Administration of Justice.

Conformément à l'article 96(e) du Règlement, la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 11, Loi modifiant la Loi sur l'expropriation et le Code des droits de la personne relativement aux droits de propriété n'a pas fait l'objet d'opposition et la motion, mise aux voix, est déclarée adoptée et le projet de loi est en conséquence lu une deuxième fois et déféré au Comité permanent de l'administration de la justice.

THE AFTERNOON SITTING

1:30 P.M.

SÉANCE DE L'APRÈS-MIDI

13 H 30

Mr Johnson (Don Mills) delivered to the Speaker a message from His Honour the Lieutenant Governor signed by his own hand, and the said message was read by the Speaker and is as follows:-

H. N. R. Jackman

The Lieutenant Governor transmits Supplementary Estimates of certain sums required for the services of the Province for the year ending 31st March 1996 and recommends them to the Legislative Assembly.

Le lieutenant-gouverneur transmet les prévisions supplémentaires de certains montants nécessaires requis pour assurer les services de la province pour l'exercice se terminant le 31 mars 1996 et les recommande à l'Assemblée législative.

Toronto, 1st November 1995

Toronto, le 1er novembre 1995

(Sessional Paper No. 3, Education and Training, Environment and Energy, Health, Management Board Secretariat, Transportation.)

(Document parlementaire n_ 3, Éducation et formation, Environnement et énergie, Santé, Secrétariat du Conseil de gestion, Transports.)

Ordered, That the message of the Lieutenant Governor together with the Supplementary Estimates accompanying same be deemed to be referred to the Standing Committee on Estimates pursuant to Standing Order 61(a).

MOTIONS

MOTIONS

On motion by Mr Eves,

Sur la motion de M. Eves,

Ordered, That, notwithstanding Standing Order 96(h), the requirement for notice be waived with respect to ballot items 5 and 6.

With unanimous consent, during "Motions", the Order of the Day was called for resuming the Adjourned Debate on the motion to appoint the membership to the Standing Committees of the House for this session, and the question having been put was declared carried and it was,

Ordered, That the membership of the standing committees for this Session be as follows:

Standing Committee on Administration of Justice:-

Mrs Boyd

Mr Chiarelli

Mr Conway

Mr Doyle

Mr Guzzo

Mr Hampton

Mr Hudak

Mr Johnson (Brantford)

Mr Klees

Mr Leadston

Mr Martiniuk

Mr Parker

Mr Ramsay

Mr Tilson

Standing Committee on Estimates:-

Mr Barrett

Mr Bisson

Mr Brown (Algoma Manitoulin)

Mr Brown (Scarborough West)

Mr Cleary

Mr Clement

Mr Curling

Mr Cordiano

Mr Kells

Mr Martin

Mr Rollins

Mrs Ross

Mr Sheehan

Mr Wettlaufer

Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs:-

Mr Arnott

Mr Brown (Scarborough West)

Ms Castrilli

Mr Chudleigh

Mr Ford

Mr Hudak

Ms Lankin

Mr Kwinter

Mr Martiniuk

Mr Phillips

Mr Sampson

Mr Silipo

Mr Spina

Mr Wettlaufer

Standing Committee on General Government:-

Mr Carroll

Mr Danford

Mr Flaherty

Mr Grandmaitre

Mr Hardeman

Mr Kells

Mr Marchese

Mr Maves

Ms Pupatello

Mr Sergio

Mr Stewart

Mr Tascona

Mr Wood (Cochrane North)

Mr Young

Standing Committee on Government Agencies:-

Mr Bartolucci

Mr Crozier

Mr Ford

Mr Fox

Mr Gravelle

Mr Johnson (Perth)

Mr Kormos

Mr Laughren

Mr Leadston

Mr Martin

Mr Newman

Mr Preston

Mrs Ross

Mr Wood (London South)

Standing Committee on the Legislative Assembly:-

Mr Arnott

Mr Bartolucci

Mr Boushy

Mr Cooke

Mr DeFaria

Mr Froese

Mr Hastings

Mr Grimmett

Mr Johnson (Brantford)

Mr Miclash

Mr Morin

Mr O'Toole

Mr Silipo

Mr Stewart

Standing Committee on the Ombudsman:-

Mrs Caplan

Mr DeFaria

Mr Doyle

Mrs Fisher

Mr Froese

Mr Galt

Mr Hoy

Mr Jordon

Mr Lalonde

Mr Marchese

Mr Parker

Mr Stockwell

Mr VanKoughnet

Mr Wood (Cochrane North)

Standing Committee on Public Accounts:-

Mr Agostino

Mr Beaubien

Mr Boushy

Mr Carr

Mr Colle

Mr Crozier

Mr Fox

Mr Gilchrist

Mr Hastings

Ms Martel

Mr McGuinty

Mr Pouliot

Mr Skarica

Mr VanKoughnet

Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills:-

Mr Barrett

Mr Bisson

Mr Boushy

Mr Hastings

Mr O'Toole

Mr Pettit

Mr Pouliot

Ms Pupatello

Mr Rollins

Mr Ruprecht

Mr Sergio

Mr Shea

Mr Sheehan

Mr Smith

Standing Committee on Resources Development:-

Mr Baird

Mr Carroll

Mr Christopherson

Mr Chudleigh

Ms Churley

Mr Duncan

Mrs Fisher

Mr Gilchrist

Mr Hoy

Mr Lalonde

Mr Maves

Mr Murdoch

Mr Ouellette

Mr Tascona

Standing Committee on Social Development:-

Mr Agostino

Mrs Ecker

Mr Gerretsen

Mr Gravelle

Mrs Johns

Mr Jordon

Mr Laughren

Mrs Munro

Mr Newman

Mr Patten

Mr Pettit

Mr Preston

Mr Smith

Mr Wildman

With unanimous consent, the following substantive motion was moved without notice:-

Avec le consentement unanime, la motion de fond suivante est proposée sans prévais:-

On motion by Mr Eves,

Sur la motion de M. Eves,

Ordered, That the following schedule for committee meetings be established for this Session:- the Standing Committee on Administration of Justice may meet on Monday and Tuesday afternoons following Routine Proceedings; the Standing Committee on Estimates may meet on Tuesday and Wednesday afternoons following Routine Proceedings; the Standing Committee on Finance and Economic Affairs may meet on Thursday mornings and Thursday afternoons following Routine Proceedings; the Standing Committee on General Government may meet on Thursday mornings and Thursday afternoons following Routine Proceedings; the Standing Committee on Government Agencies may meet on Wednesday mornings; the Standing Committee on the Legislative Assembly may meet on Wednesday afternoons following Routine Proceedings; the Standing Committee on the Ombudsman may meet on Wednesday mornings; the Standing Committee on Public Accounts may meet on Thursday mornings; the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills may meet on Wednesday mornings; the Standing Committee on Resources Development may meet on Monday and Wednesday afternoons following Routine Proceedings; and the Standing Committee on Social Development may meet on Monday and Tuesday afternoons following Routine Proceedings; and that no standing or select committee may meet except in accordance with this schedule or as ordered by the House.

PETITIONS

PÉTITIONS

Petition relating to Karla Homolka's Plea Bargain Arrangement (Sessional Paper No. P-6) (Tabled November 2, 1995) Mr E. Doyle.

Petition relating to Bill 7, Labour Relations and Employment Statute Law Amendment Act, 1995 (Sessional Paper No. P-9) (Tabled November 2, 1995) Mr D. Christopherson.

Petition relating to North York Branson Hospital (Sessional Paper No. P-15) (Tabled November 2, 1995) Mr M. Kwinter.

Petition relating to Community based Justice Programs (Sessional Paper No. P-19) (Tabled November 2, 1995) Mr A. Curling.

Pétition ayant rapport aux Services en français dans les centres de santé communautaire de Hamilton-Wentworth et du Niagara (Sessional Paper No. P-20) (Tabled November 2, 1995) Mr D. Christopherson.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

ORDRE DU JOUR

Debate was resumed on the motion for Second Reading of Bill 8, An Act to repeal job quotas and to restore merit-based employment practices in Ontario.

Le débat reprend sur la motion portant deuxième lecture du projet de loi 8, Loi abrogeant le contingentement en matière d'emploi et rétablissant en Ontario les pratiques d'emploi fondées sur le mérite.

After some time, the motion was carried on the following division:-

Après quelque temps, la motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-

AYES / POUR - 60

Baird Hastings Rollins

Barrett Hudak Ross

Bassett Jackson Runciman

Brown Johns Sampson

(Scarborough West) Johnson Saunderson

Carr (Brantford) Shea

Carroll Johnson Sheehan

Chudleigh (Don Mills) Skarica

Clement Johnson Smith

Danford (Perth) Snobelen

Doyle Kells Spina

Ecker Klees Sterling

Eves Leadston Stockwell

Fisher Marland Tilson

Flaherty Martiniuk Tsubouchi

Ford Maves Turnbull

AYES / POUR - Continued

Fox Munro Vankoughnet

Froese Newman Wettlaufer

Galt O'Toole Witmer

Gilchrist Palladini Young

Grimmett Parker

Hardeman Pettit

NAYS / CONTRE - 21

Agostino Curling Phillips

Bisson Kwinter Sergio

Boyd Lalonde Silipo

Castrilli Lankin Wildman

Churley Laughren Wood

Colle Marchese (Cochrane North)

Cooke Martin

Cordiano McLeod

And the Bill was accordingly read the second time and Ordered referred to the Standing Committee on General Government.

En conséquence, ce projet de loi est lu une deuxième fois et déféré au Comité permanent des affaires gouvernementales.

At 6:10 p.m., the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed pursuant to Standing Order 34(b).

À 18 h 10, la motion portant «Que la présente Assemblée ajourne les débats maintenant» est réputée avoir été proposée conformément à l'article 34(b) du Règlement.

After two matters were considered, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Après l'étude de deux questions, la motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir été adoptée.

The House then adjourned

at 6:30 p.m.

À 18 h 30 h, la chambre a ensuite

ajourné ses travaux.

le président

Allan K. McLean

Speaker

Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 39(c):-

Documents Parlementaires Déposés Conformément à l'article 39(c) du Règlement:-

Municipal Financial Information 1993 / Information financière des municipalités 1993 (No. 24) (Tabled November 2, 1995).

STATUS OF LEGISLATION

PUBLIC BILLS INDEX

(Government and Private Members')

ÉTAT DE L'AVANCEMENT DES PROJETS DE LOI

INDEX DES PROJETS DE LOI D'INTÉRÊT PUBLIC

(Gouvernement et Députés)

Charter of Rights for Victims of Crime. Ms A. Castrilli 12

Corporations Information. Hon. N. Sterling 6

Drop the Penny. Mr D. Tilson 9, 14

Election. Mr D. McGuinty 2

Executive Council. Hon. E. Eves 1

Expropriations (see Property Rights)

Franchises. Mr T. Martin 13

Highway Improvement (see Public Transportation)

Human Rights Code (see Property Rights)

Job Quotas. Hon. M. Mushinski 8

Labour Relations and Employment Statute Law. Hon. E. Witmer 7

Law Society. Mr R. Chiarelli 4

Motor Vehicle Fuel Pricing. Mr R. Chiarelli 10

Occupational Health and Safety (see Workers' Compensation)

Property Rights Statute Law. Mr T. Barrett 11

Public Transportation and Highway Improvement. Mr M. Gravelle 16

Shortline Railways. Hon. A. Palladini 5

Solicitors. Mr R. Chiarelli 3

Victims of Crime (see Charter of Rights)

Workers' Compensation and

Occupational Health and Safety. Hon. E. Witmer 15

PRIVATE BILLS INDEX

INDEX DES PROJETS DE LOI D'INTÉRÊT PRIVÉ

Brampton, City of. Mr T. Clement Pr9

Canadian Life Line Limited. Mr M. Kwinter Pr39

Canadian Niagara Power Company, Limited. Mr T. Hudak Pr12

Mississauga, City of. Mr R. Sampson Pr37

Nepean, City of. Mr J. Baird Pr13, Pr14

Waterloo County Board of Education. Mr G. Leadston Pr11

Waterloo-Guelph Regional Airport. Mr G. Leadston Pr38

GOVERNMENT BILLS AND PRIVATE MEMBERS' PUBLIC BILLS

PROJETS DE LOI ÉMANANT DU GOVERNEMENT ET PROJETS DE LOI D'INTÉRÊT PUBLIC ÉMANANT DES DÉPUTÉS

Bill 1, Executive Council Amendment Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 modifiant la Loi sur le Conseil exécutif. Hon. E. Eves (Deputy Premier). First Reading September 27, 1995.

Bill 2, Election Amendment Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 modifiant la Loi électorale. Mr D. McGuinty (L./Ottawa South). First Reading September 28, 1995.

Bill 3, Solicitors Amendment Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 modifiant la Loi sur les procureurs. Mr R. Chiarelli (L./Ottawa West). First Reading October 2, 1995.

Bill 4, Law Society Amendment Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 modifiant la Loi sur le Barreau. Mr R. Chiarelli (L./Ottawa West). First Reading October 2, 1995.

Bill 5, Shortline Railways Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 sur les chemins de fer d'intérêt local. Hon. A. Palladini (Minister of Transportation). First Reading October 3, 1995.

Bill 6, Corporations Information Amendment Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 modifiant la Loi sur les renseignements exigés des personnes morales. Hon. N. Sterling (Minister of Consumer and Commercial Relations). First Reading October 3, 1995.

Bill 7, Labour Relations and Employment Statute Law Amendment Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 modifiant des lois en ce qui concerne les relations de travail et l'emploi. Hon. E. Witmer (Minister of Labour). First Reading on division October 4, 1995. Second Reading debated October 18, 19, 23, 24. Carried on division October 26. Ordered referred to the Committee of the Whole House pursuant to the Order of the House of October 25. Considered and reported as amended October 31. Third Reading carried on division October 31.

Bill 8, Job Quotas Repeal Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 abrogeant le contingentement en matière d'emploi. Hon. M. Mushinski (Minister of Citizenship, Culture and Recreation). First Reading October 11, 1995. Second Reading debated October 26, 30; November 1, 2. Carried on division November 2. Ordered referred to the Standing Committee on General Government.

Bill 9, Drop the Penny Act, 1995. Mr D. Tilson (P.C./Dufferin-Peel). First Reading on division October 16, 1995. Ruled out of order and removed from Order Paper October 17.

Bill 10, Motor Vehicle Fuel Pricing Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 sur l'établissement des prix du carburant pour véhicules automobiles. Mr R. Chiarelli (L./Ottawa West). First Reading October 17, 1995.

Bill 11, Property Rights Statute Law Amendment Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 modifiant des lois en ce qui concerne les droits de propriété. Mr T. Barrett (P.C./Norfolk). First Reading October 30, 1995. Second Reading November 2. Ordered referred to the Standing Committee on Administration of Justice.

Bill 12, Charter of Rights for Victims of Crime, 1995/Charte des droits des victimes d'actes criminels de 1995. Ms A. Castrilli (L./Downsview). First Reading October 30, 1995.

Bill 13, Franchises Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 sur les franchises. Mr T. Martin (N.D./Sault Ste. Marie). First Reading October 30, 1995.

Bill 14, Drop the Penny Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 sur l'abandon des pièces d'un cent. Mr D. Tilson (P.C./Dufferin-Peel). First Reading October 30, 1995.

Bill 15, Workers' Compensation and Occupational Health and Safety Amendment Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 modifiant la Loi sur les accidents du travail et la Loi sur la santé et la sécurité au travail. Hon. E. Witmer (Minister of Labour). First Reading November 1, 1995.

Bill 16, Public Transportation and Highway Improvement Amendment Act, 1995/Loi de 1995 modifiant la Loi sur l'aménagement des voies publiques et des transports en commun. Mr M. Gravelle (L./Port Arthur). First Reading November 1, 1995.

PRIVATE BILLS

PROJETS DE LOI D'INTÉRÊT PRIVÉ

Bill Pr9, Brampton Act, 1995 - City of. Mr T. Clement (P.C./Brampton South). First Reading October 10, 1995. Referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.

Bill Pr11, Waterloo County Board of Education Act, 1995. Mr G. Leadston (P.C./Kitchener-Wilmot). First Reading October 10, 1995. Referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.

Bill Pr12, Canadian Niagara Power Company, Limited Act, 1995. Mr T. Hudak (P.C./Niagara South). First Reading October 11, 1995. Referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.

Bill Pr13, Nepean Act, 1995 - City of. Mr J. Baird (P.C./Nepean). First Reading October 10, 1995. Referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.

Bill Pr14, Nepean Act, 1995 - City of. Mr J. Baird (P.C./Nepean). First Reading October 10, 1995. Referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.

Bill Pr37, Mississauga Act, 1995 - City of. Mr R. Sampson (P.C./Mississauga West). First Reading October 11, 1995. Referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.

Bill Pr38, Waterloo-Guelph Regional Airport Act, 1995. Mr G. Leadston (P.C./Kitchener-Wilmot). First Reading October 10, 1995. Referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.

Bill Pr39, Canadian Life Line Limited Act, 1995. Mr M. Kwinter (L./Wilson Heights). First Reading November 1, 1995. Referred to the Standing Committee on Regulations and Private Bills.