Daytime Meeting - Sessional Day 37
Evening Meeting - Sessional Day 38
Mercredi
19 juin 2002
Séance de l'après-midi - jour de session 37
Séance du soir - jour de session 38
3rd Session,
37th Parliament
3e session
37e législature
PRAYERS
1:30 P.M.
PRIÈRES
13 H 30
The Speaker addressed the House
as follows:-
I beg to inform the House that
today the Clerk received the First Report/premier rapport of the
Standing Committee on Government Agencies. Pursuant to Standing
Order 106(e), the Report is deemed to be adopted by the House
(Sessional Paper No. 25).
REPORTS BY
COMMITTEES
RAPPORTS DES
COMITÉS
Mr. Kennedy from the Standing
Committee on Estimates presented the Committee's report as
follows:-
Pursuant to Standing Order 59,
your Committee has selected the Estimates (2002-2003) of the
following ministries and offices for consideration:-
Ministry of Health and Long-Term
Care 7 hrs. 30 mins.
Ministry of Education 7 hrs. 30
mins.
Ministry of Environment and
Energy 7 hrs. 30 mins.
Office of the Premier 7 hrs. 30
mins.
Ministry of Intergovernmental
Affairs 7 hrs. 30 mins.
Ministry of Northern Development
and Mines 7 hrs. 30 mins.
Ministry of Training, Colleges
and Universities 7 hrs. 30 mins.
Ministry of Community, Family
and Children's Services 7 hrs. 30 mins.
Ministry of Natural Resources 7
hrs. 30 mins.
Ministry of Public Safety and
Security 7 hrs. 30 mins.
Ministry of Tourism and
Recreation 7 hrs. 30 mins.
Ministry of Enterprise,
Opportunity and Innovation 7 hrs. 30 mins.
Pursuant to Standing Order 60,
the Estimates (2002-2003) of the following ministries and offices
not selected for consideration are deemed passed by the Committee
and reported to the House in accordance with the terms of the
Standing Order and are deemed to be received and concurred
in:-
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE AND
FOOD
Ministry Administration $
11,326,600 Agriculture and Rural Economic Development/
Research and Technology Transfer
269,983,600
Investment and Market
Development 6,648,400
Risk Management
122,711,500
MINISTRY OF THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL
Ministry Administration $
89,000,000
Prosecuting Crime
91,664,600
Family Justice Services
214,475,300
Legal Services
13,147,000
Court Services
201,611,300
Victims' Services
41,914,900
CABINET OFFICE
Cabinet Office $
11,455,300
MINISTRY OF
CITIZENSHIP
Ministry Administration $
12,575,500
Citizenship
21,917,200
Ontario Women's Directorate
9,115,800
Ontario Seniors' Secretariat
679,100
Regional Services
4,889,100
MINISTRY OF CONSUMER AND
BUSINESS SERVICES
Ministry Administration $
22,660,600
Registration
27,762,200
Consumer Protection and Public
Safety/Business Standards 4,095,600
Alcohol and Gaming Management
18,687,200
Integrated Service Delivery
15,884,400
MINISTRY OF CULTURE
Ministry Administration $
1,000
Culture 93,801,700
Ontario Trillium Foundation
1,000
Culture Capital 3,000
MINISTRY OF FINANCE
Ministry Administration $
36,165,300
Tax Policy, Budget and Revenue
Operations 257,176,800
Economic, Fiscal, and Financial
Policy 700,627,800
Financial Services Industry
Regulation 16,235,900
Strategic Infrastructure
Investments and Partnerships 128,991,600
Central Agencies Information and
Information Technology Cluster 1,000
OFFICE OF FRANCOPHONE
AFFAIRS
Francophone Affairs $
2,487,300
MINISTRY OF LABOUR
Ministry Administration $
7,562,100
Pay Equity Commission
2,660,000
Labour Relations
13,585,000
Occupational Health and Safety
17,974,200
Employment Rights and
Responsibilities 8,347,300
Economic and Business Cluster
Information Technology 120,900
OFFICE OF THE LIEUTENANT
GOVERNOR
Office of the Lieutenant
Governor $ 494,100
MANAGEMENT BOARD
SECRETARIAT
Ministry Administration $
10,713,100
Realty Services
55,880,900
Corporate Controllership
248,515,600
Information and Information
Technology 1,373,400
Shared Services
3,044,900
Archives of Ontario
4,463,400
MINISTRY OF MUNICIPAL AFFAIRS
AND HOUSING
Ministry Administration $
22,860,500
Local Government
16,478,000
Land Use Planning
8,052,600
Housing Market
400,334,900
Building Regulation
2,669,300
ONTARIO NATIVE AFFAIRS
SECRETARIAT
Ontario Native Affairs
Secretariat $ 15,164,600
MINISTRY OF
TRANSPORTATION
Ministry Administration $
31,977,900
Transportation Policy and
Planning 293,031,100
Road User Safety
102,753,900
Provincial Highways Management
654,336,100
Transportation Information and
Information Technology Cluster 43,293,300
Mr. Marchese from the Standing
Committee on Regulations and Private Bills presented the
Committee's Report which was read as follows and
adopted:-
M. Marchese du Comité
permanent des règlements et des projets de loi
d'intérêt privé présente le rapport du
comité qui est lu comme suit et adopté:-
Your Committee begs to report
the following Bill without amendment:-
Votre comité propose qu'il
soit permis de faire rapport sur le projet de loi suivant sans
amendement:-
Bill Pr5, An Act respecting
Groves Memorial Community Hospital.
INTRODUCTION OF
BILLS
DÉPÔT DES PROJETS
DE LOI
The following Bills were
introduced and read the first time:-
Les projets de loi suivants sont
présentés et lus une première fois:-
Bill 110, An Act to control
mega-hog farms. Mr. Lalonde.
Projet de loi 110, Loi visant
à contrôler les grosses exploitations porcines. M.
Lalonde.
Bill 111, An Act to amend the
Highway Traffic Act. Mr. Levac.
Projet de loi 111, Loi modifiant
le Code de la route. M. Levac.
The following Bill was
introduced, read the first time and referred to the Commissioners
of Estate Bills:-
Le projet de loi suivant est
présenté, lu une première fois et
déféré aux commissaires aux projets de loi ayant
trait à une succession:-
Bill Pr9, An Act respecting The
Elliott. Mr. Arnott.
With unanimous consent, on
motion by Mr. Bartolucci,
Avec le consentement unanime,
sur la motion de M. Bartolucci,
Resolved, That the Legislative
Assembly of Ontario calls upon the Solicitor General to undertake
the following three directives, as demanded by the JoeMac
Committee during its February 18, 2002 meeting with Mr.
MacAulay:
1. Ensure the immediate return
of Clinton Suzack and Peter Pennett to maximum security to serve
the duration of their 25-year sentence for the first-degree
murder of Constable Joe MacDonald.
2. Order an external review of
Correctional Services of Canada in light of compelling and
irrefutable evidence that CSC continues to pursue a dangerous and
illegal policy whereby prisoners are cascaded to lower security
settings and ultimately freedom, based not on individual risk
assessments but on meeting numerical targets or
'quotas'.
3. Follow through with a
commitment made in April 2000 before a Federal Justice Committee
whereby he denied the existence of the aforementioned policy and
offered to confirm this in writing to the CSC Commissioner,
Wardens and Staff that the prisoners must not be cascaded to
lower security settings and ultimately, freedom based on
numerical quotas.
DEFERRED VOTES
VOTES
DIFFÉRÉS
The deferred vote on the motion
for Third Reading of Bill 124, An Act to improve public safety
and to increase efficiency in building code enforcement was
carried on the following division:-
La motion portant troisième
lecture du projet de loi 124, Loi visant à améliorer la
sécurité publique et à accroître
l'efficacité dans l'exécution du code du bâtiment,
mise aux voix sur le vote différé, est adoptée par
le vote suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
53
Arnott
Baird
Barrett
Beaubien
Chudleigh
Clark
Clement
Coburn
Cunningham
DeFaria
Dunlop
Ecker
Elliott
Eves
Flaherty
Galt
Gilchrist
Gill
Guzzo
Hastings
Hodgson
Hudak
Jackson
Johns
Johnson
Kells
Klees
Marland
Martiniuk
Maves
Mazzilli
McDonald
Miller
Molinari
Munro
Murdoch
Mushinski
Newman
O'Toole
Ouellette
Runciman
Sampson
Spina
Sterling
Stewart
Stockwell
Tascona
Tsubouchi
Turnbull
Wilson
Witmer
Wood
Young
NAYS / CONTRE -
33
Agostino
Bartolucci
Bisson
Bountrogianni
Boyer
Bradley
Brown
Bryant
Caplan
Churley
Cleary
Colle
Conway
Crozier
Di Cocco
Dombrowsky
Duncan
Gerretsen
Gravelle
Hoy
Kennedy
Kormos
Lalonde
Levac
Marchese
Martin
McGuinty
McLeod
Patten
Phillips
Ramsay
Ruprecht
Smitherman
And the Bill was accordingly
read the third time and was passed.
En conséquence, ce projet
de loi est lu une troisième fois et adopté.
PETITIONS
PÉTITIONS
Petition relating to the
Development of legislation to support caregivers who care for
their relatives in their homes (Sessional Paper No. P-3) Mr.
O'Toole.
Petition relating to Cost of
living increase to the recipients of benefits through the Ontario
Disability Support Program (Sessional Paper No. P-5) Mrs.
McLeod.
Petitions relating to Stopping
the deregulation and privatization of Ontario's electricity
system (Sessional Paper No. P-8) Mr. Caplan, Mr. Curling and Mr.
Gravelle.
Petition relating to
Establishing a community health centre in Centre Hastings
(Sessional Paper No. P-10) Mrs. Dombrowsky.
Petition relating to Convening a
Select Committee on the Auto Industry (Sessional Paper No. P-17)
Mr. Bradley.
Petition relating to Community
care access centres (Sessional Paper No. P-29) Mrs.
McLeod.
Petition relating to Closing the
cardiac surgery services at Children's Hospital of Eastern
Ontario (Sessional Paper No. P-36) Mr. Conway.
Petition relating to Severance
packages to senior executives of Hydro One (Sessional Paper No.
P-45) Mr. O'Toole.
Petition relating to the
Environmental Bill of Rights (Sessional Paper No. P-57) Mr.
Gravelle.
Petition relating to Saturday
international language classes (Sessional Paper No. P-58) Mr.
Caplan.
ORDERS OF THE
DAY
ORDRE DU JOUR
Mr. Baird moved,
M. Baird propose,
That pursuant to Standing Order
46 and notwithstanding any other Standing Order or Special Order
of the House relating to Bill 80, An Act respecting directors and
officers of Hydro One Inc. and its subsidiaries, when Bill 80 is
next called as a government order, the Speaker shall put every
question necessary to dispose of the second reading stage of the
bill, without further debate or amendment, and
That, the vote on second reading
may, pursuant to Standing Order 28(h), be deferred until the next
Sessional day during the Routine Proceeding "Deferred Votes";
and
That on the same day that the
bill receives second reading, it may be called for third reading
and;
When the order for third reading
is called, the Speaker shall put every question necessary to
dispose of this stage of the bill without further debate or
amendment; and
That no deferral of the third
reading vote pursuant to Standing Order 28(h) shall be permitted;
and
That, in the case of any
division relating to any proceedings on the bill, the division
bell shall be limited to five minutes.
A debate arising, after some
time, Mr. Baird moved the adjournment of the debate, which motion
was lost on the following division:-
Un débat s'ensuit,
après quelque temps, M. Baird propose l'ajournement du
débat. Cette motion est rejetée par le vote
suivant:-
Ayes - 22 Nays - 47
Pour - 22 Contre - 47
The debate continued and, after
some time, Mr. Baird moved the adjournment of the House, which
motion was lost on the following division:-
Le débat se poursuit et
après quelque temps, M. Baird propose l'ajournement des
travaux de l'Assemblée. Cette motion est rejetée par le
vote suivant:-
Ayes - 24 Nays - 47
Pour - 24 Contre - 47
After some time, Mr. Baird
moved:-
Après quelque temps, M.
Baird propose:-
That Government notice of motion
number 32 be amended by deleting the second paragraph and
substituting the following therefor:-
"That, the vote on second
reading may not be deferred; and"
The debate continued and, after
some time, Mr. Baird moved the adjournment of the debate, which
motion was lost on the following division:
Le débat se poursuit et
après quelque temps, M. Baird propose l'ajournement du
débat. Cette motion est rejetée par le vote
suivant:
Ayes - 0 Nays - 48
Pour - 0 Contre - 48
The debate continued and, after
some time, Mr. Baird withdrew the amendment to the
motion.
Le débat se poursuit et
après quelque temps,
M. Baird retire l'amendement à la motion.
After some time, the motion was
carried on the following division:-
Après quelque temps, la
motion est adoptée par le vote suivant:-
AYES / POUR -
50
Arnott
Baird
Barrett
Beaubien
Chudleigh
Clark
Clement
Coburn
Cunningham
DeFaria
Dunlop
Ecker
Elliott
Eves
Flaherty
Galt
Gilchrist
Gill
Guzzo
Hastings
Hodgson
Jackson
Johns
Kells
Klees
Marland
Martiniuk
Maves
Mazzilli
McDonald
Miller
Molinari
Munro
Murdoch
Mushinski
O'Toole
Ouellette
Runciman
Sampson
Spina
Sterling
Stewart
Stockwell
Tascona
Tsubouchi
Turnbull
Wilson
Witmer
Wood
Young
NAYS / CONTRE -
24
Bartolucci
Bisson
Bountrogianni
Bradley
Brown
Bryant
Caplan
Churley
Conway
Curling
Di Cocco
Dombrowsky
Gerretsen
Gravelle
Kormos
Lalonde
Marchese
Martel
Martin
McLeod
Patten
Ramsay
Ruprecht
Sergio
The House then adjourned at 6:05
p.m.
À 18 h 05, la chambre a
ensuite ajourné ses travaux.
6:45 P.M.
18 H 45
ORDERS OF THE
DAY
ORDRE DU JOUR
Debate was resumed on the
Amendment to the motion that this House approves in general the
Budgetary Policy of the Government.
Le débat reprend sur
l'amendement à la motion portant que la présente
Assemblée adopte en général la politique
budgétaire du gouvernement.
During the debate, the Acting
Speaker
(Mr. Johnson) repeatedly requested the Member for Niagara Centre
(Mr. Kormos) to come to order.
Pendant le débat, le
président par intérim, M. Johnson demande à
plusieurs reprises au député de Niagara-Centre, M.
Kormos de se comporter.
The Member having refused was
named by the Speaker and directed to withdraw from the service of
the House for the balance of the sessional day.
Comme le député refuse
d'obéir, le Président par intérim le désigne
par son nom et l'ordonne de se retirer du service de
l'Assemblée pour le reste du jour de session.
After some time, pursuant to
Standing Order 9(a), the motion for the adjournment of the debate
was deemed to have been made and carried.
Après quelque temps,
conformément à l'article 9(a) du Règlement, la
motion d'ajournement du débat est réputée avoir
été proposée et adoptée.
The House then adjourned at 9:30
p.m.
À 21 h 30, la chambre a
ensuite ajourné ses travaux.
le président
GARY CARR
Speaker
PETITIONS TABLED PURSUANT TO
STANDING ORDER 38 (A)
Petition relating to Cancelling
corporate tax cuts and private school tax vouchers (Sessional
Paper No. P-56) Mr. Duncan.