Legislative Assembly of Ontario

The committee met at 0902 in committee room 1.

Election of Chair

The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Eric Rennie): Good morning, honourable members. As the Clerk of your committee, it is my duty to call upon you to elect a Chair. Are there any nominations for Chair? Mr. Coe?

Mr. Lorne Coe: Through you, Clerk, I’d like to nominate Kaleed Rasheed as the Chair of the Committee.

The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Eric Rennie): Thank you. Mr. Rasheed, do you accept the nomination?

Mr. Kaleed Rasheed: Yes, I do.

The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Eric Rennie): Okay, great. Are there any further nominations for Chair? Mr. West?

Mr. Jamie West: I would like to nominate Mr. Miller.

The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Eric Rennie): Mr. Miller, do you accept the nomination?

Mr. Paul Miller: Absolutely.

The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Eric Rennie): Thank you. Are there any further nominations?

Mr. Lorne Coe: I move that nominations are closed.

The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Eric Rennie): Okay. So Mr. Rasheed and Mr. Miller have been nominated. There being no further nominations, I declare the nominations closed.

I will go through the votes one at a time. All those in favour of Mr. Rasheed as Chair, please raise your hand.

Mr. Paul Miller: Mr. Clerk, can I have a recorded vote, please?

The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Eric Rennie): I am unable to do a recorded vote because the question has already been put.

Mr. Paul Miller: Oh, I think you—I would ask for clarification on that. I think you can.

The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Eric Rennie): Mr. Rasheed, having received the majority of votes of the committee, is duly elected as Chair.

Mr. Rasheed, would you please take the chair?

Mr. Paul Miller: You and I are going to have a talk.

Election of Vice-Chair

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Good morning, honourable members. It is my duty to entertain a motion for a Vice-Chair. Are there any motions? Yes, Mr. Coe?

Mr. Lorne Coe: Through you, Chair: I move that Mr. Bouma be appointed Vice-Chair of the committee.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): A motion has been moved by Mr. Coe. Is there any debate?

Mr. Paul Miller: Is there not a vote on Vice-Chair?

The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Eric Rennie): There is, yes.

Mr. Paul Miller: Oh, there is? I think you missed that.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Is there any debate?

Mr. Paul Miller: No, I’d like to nominate Mr. West for Vice-Chair.

Interruption.

Mr. Paul Miller: And a recorded vote this time, please. If you need any help, let me know.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Thank you. Mr. Coe has moved that Mr. Bouma be appointed as Vice-Chair of the committee. Are there any further nominations?

Mr. Paul Miller: Yes, I’m nominating Mr. West for Vice-Chair.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Let’s deal with this motion first, because it’s done through a motion.

Mr. Paul Miller: Then we’ll have a vote?

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Yes, then we’ll have the vote. No further debate for this motion right here?

Mr. Jamie West: Just for clarification: Does Mr. Bouma have to agree or send a letter?

Mr. Paul Miller: There seems to be some confusion here.

Mr. Jamie West: No, I’m not sure.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Not for the motion for the Vice-Chair. He can be appointed even if he’s absent today.

Mr. Jamie West: Thank you.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Are the members ready to vote? Okay. Shall the motion carry?

Interjection.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): A recorded vote has been requested. All the members who are in favour, please raise your hand.

Mr. Paul Miller: Mr. Chair, I’m a little confused here. You’ve already accepted the motion. You voted on the motion to make him Vice-Chair. When does Mr. West come into the picture?

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Okay, so what we’re going to do is we’re going to vote on the Vice-Chair. Let’s see if this vote passes, and then after this we can deal with any further motions.

All in favour of the motion that Mr. Bouma be appointed as Vice-Chair of the Committee—

Mr. Paul Miller: Did Mr. West accept the nomination?

Interjections.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Just to clarify, Mr. Coe has passed a motion that Mr. Bouma be appointed as Vice-Chair of the Committee. Are the members ready to vote?

Mr. Paul Miller: Recorded vote.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Recorded vote.

Ayes

Calandra, Coe, Crawford, Pang, Pettapiece, Sandhu.

Nays

Paul Miller, West.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): The motion is accordingly carried.

Mr. Paul Miller: I would like to present another motion, Mr. Chair. I move that we have another vote on Mr. West as being nominated.

Interjections.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): We’re just going to have a quick two-minute recess.

The committee recessed from 0913 to 0920.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Thank you. Because there was a motion on the floor first for a Vice-Chair position by the other side, we have already made Mr. Bouma the Vice-Chair. I’m not going to be accepting any further motions.

Mr. Paul Miller: Mr. Chairman, with all due respect, I did say to the Clerk before that I wanted to do it before, and he told me to do it after, so there was some miscommunication. There’s not much I can do about it now, but I think we should get our ducks in order before we move ahead with these kinds of votes. It wasn’t done properly. You went too fast and accepted the motion without bringing my motion. If I had to put my motion first—with all due respect, I’ve done it a few times. If I had done my motion first, it would have been voted on. But because you did what you did and voted on it, it’s actually not done properly. We weren’t going to win the vote anyway so I’m not going to protest too much, but it’d be nice if we did it right.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Thank you.

Is there any further business before we move to Bill Pr5?

Mr. Paul Miller: Yes, there is, Mr. Chair.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Yes, Mr. Miller?

Mr. Paul Miller: I’m excusing myself from the vote because I’m a Mason. It’s a conflict of interest for me.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Okay. Yes, Mr. Coe?

Mr. Lorne Coe: On Bill Pr5, An Act to revive Dundas Valley Masonic Hall Inc., I’ll be abstaining from voting on this particular item. I’m also a Mason and past master of the Composite Lodge in Whitby.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Thank you, Mr. Coe. Mr. Sandhu?

Appointment of subcommittee

Mr. Amarjot Sandhu: I move that the following change be made to the membership of the subcommittee on committee business: Mr. Bouma be replaced by Mr. Coe.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Mr. Sandhu has moved that the following change be made to the membership of the subcommittee on committee business: Mr. Bouma be replaced by Mr. Coe. Is there any further debate? Yes, Mr. West.

Mr. Jamie West: Just for clarification: Wasn’t Mr. Bouma just named as our Vice-Chair? Would we have to name someone again?

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): No.

Mr. Jamie West: No? Okay.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Mr. Bouma is the Vice-Chair of this committee. This only affects the subcommittee.

Mr. Jamie West: Oh, I apologize. Okay.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Are the members ready to vote? All those in favour? All those opposed? Okay. The motion is carried.

Dundas Valley Masonic Hall Inc. Act, 2019

Consideration of the following bill:

Bill Pr5, An Act to revive Dundas Valley Masonic Hall Inc.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): There is one private bill on the agenda for consideration today: Bill Pr5, An Act to revive Dundas Valley Masonic Hall Inc. If I may request the sponsor and the applicant to please come forward. Thank you. If you can please introduce yourself.

Ms. Sandy Shaw: Good morning, Chair. Congratulations on your election. My name is Sandy Shaw. I’m the MPP from Hamilton West–Ancaster–Dundas. Good morning, gentlemen.

Mr. John MacKay: I’m John MacKay. I’m a representative of Valley Lodge No. 100, a Masonic Lodge in Dundas, Ontario. I represent the board of directors.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Thank you.

Ms. Shaw, do you have any comments on this?

Ms. Sandy Shaw: Well, I believe you have the bill before you. As Mr. MacKay said, he is a representative of Dundas Valley Lodge Ancient Free and Accepted Masons number 100. I will just let Mr. MacKay address any questions that the committee may have regarding what’s before you this morning.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Mr. MacKay, do you have any comments?

Mr. John MacKay: I’m seeking the revival of the corporation name, which was established in 1994. Because of a non-return of tax forms, it was deemed—I don’t know the word, actually; it wasn’t recognized by the government. So we’re just looking for the revival of the name. I think all the branches of government have been contacted. We expect to get caught up on everything after that.

Ms. Sandy Shaw: Dissolution.

Mr. John MacKay: It was the dissolution of the corporation.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Thank you. Are there any other interested parties in attendance today?

I’ll ask if there are any comments from the government side.

Any comments from the opposition side?

Mr. Jamie West: No.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): Are the members ready to vote?

Bill Pr5, An Act to revive Dundas Valley Masonic Hall Inc.: Shall section 1 carry? All in favour? All opposed? It is carried.

Shall section 2 be carried? All in favour? Opposed? Carried.

Shall section 3 be carried? Carried.

Shall the preamble carry? Carried.

Shall the title carry? Carried.

Shall the bill carry? Carried.

Shall I report the bill to the House? Carried.

Thank you very much for coming forward this morning.

Mr. John MacKay: Thank you, Mr. Chair and members of the committee.

The Chair (Mr. Kaleed Rasheed): We’re just going to have a two-minute recess before we gather back for the consideration of the draft report on regulations.

The committee recessed at 0929 and later continued in closed session.

STANDING COMMITTEE ON REGULATIONS AND PRIVATE BILLS

Chair / Président

Mr. Kaleed Rasheed (Mississauga East–Cooksville / Mississauga-Est–Cooksville PC)

Vice-Chair / Vice-Président

Mr. Will Bouma (Brantford–Brant PC)

Mr. Will Bouma (Brantford–Brant PC)

Mr. Paul Calandra (Markham–Stouffville PC)

Mr. Lorne Coe (Whitby PC)

Mr. Stephen Crawford (Oakville PC)

Ms. Mitzie Hunter (Scarborough–Guildwood L)

Ms. Laura Mae Lindo (Kitchener Centre / Kitchener-Centre ND)

Mr. Paul Miller (Hamilton East–Stoney Creek / Hamilton-Est–Stoney Creek ND)

Mr. Billy Pang (Markham–Unionville PC)

Mr. Kaleed Rasheed (Mississauga East–Cooksville / Mississauga-Est–Cooksville PC)

Mr. Amarjot Sandhu (Brampton West / Brampton-Ouest PC)

Mr. Jamie West (Sudbury ND)

Substitutions / Membres remplaçants

Mr. Randy Pettapiece (Perth–Wellington PC)

Clerk / Greffier

Mr. Eric Rennie

Staff / Personnel

Ms. Tamara Hauerstock, research officer,
Research Services

Ms. Catherine Oh, legislative counsel